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New Guantanamo Arrests ’Imminent’
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Posted by Sorge 2003-10-10 5:03:19 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [354 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 IT has been reported elsewhere that UBL has proclaimed himself a prophet. Which makes him and his ilk blasphemers and not "real muslims"

But they would be more than happy to engage in all out religious war between the West and all of Islam. Not something a lot of Muslims are looking forward to, and won't play along with as long as we don't. We make this a war against all Islam, we are playing into the terrorists hands.

It may be dishonest in some respects, but if it is required to make our job easier and our victory more achievable, its a small price to pay.
Posted by Ben  2003-10-10 5:58:14 AM||   2003-10-10 5:58:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Here is something I really can't understand:

FBI: Jews need not apply for Arabic linguist jobs
Posted by True German Ally 2003-10-10 6:10:37 AM||   2003-10-10 6:10:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 No, the real problem is finding loyal linguists.

Let's let the Marines instruct the POWs in English. It will help them with their future job prospects.
Posted by Shipman 2003-10-10 7:30:13 AM||   2003-10-10 7:30:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 TGA said Here is something I really can't understand: FBI: Jews need not apply for Arabic linguist jobs

I think you may explain this in two possible ways:
1. The FBI is paranoid about anything Jewish being a security risk in view of possible double allegiance to Israel or the Mossad.

2. The FBI has been already infilterated by pro-moslem elements and simply does not give a fuck about their ablity to handle the arabic translation problem. It's like sayin we (the FBI) successfully survived the 9/11 fiasco with no heads rolling - we will therefore survive any other future fiasco without much damage, and the hell with everyone else.
even if this is a very extreme portrayal of whats going on, at least you have to admit that the "religious sensitivity" training being preached to trained FBI operators suspiciously sounds like stupid democrat leftist sensitivity mumbo jumbo

3. considering the first two possibilities, I have a piece of advice for the FBI dministration: start sending some five year old american youngsters to the madrassas in pakland or sodi arabia. In 20-25 years you will surely have enough qualified arabic translators. Hopefully by that time there will be no need for them because the islamic theocratic republic of the united states will not be the enemy of any terrorist.
Posted by The Dodo 2003-10-10 7:31:24 AM||   2003-10-10 7:31:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Speaking of Islamist infiltration of the FBI, has anyone heard the fate of that agent that refused to do his duty when it involved Muslim criminals?
Posted by Robert Crawford  2003-10-10 8:54:51 AM|| []  2003-10-10 8:54:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I put this in another post the other day but the reasoning is similar:

I'm originally from the Detroit area where not all Arabs are Muslims. There's actually a good portion of Lebanese, Syrians, Paleos, & Iraqis (known as Chaldeans in Detroit) who are Catholic/Eastern Orthodox and very anti-Sammie & anti-Muslim. My best friend growing up is Lebanese & Catholic. His family (who came over about the time Lebanon really went to shit) and many others despise the muslims and blame them for the troubles in Lebanon as well as Israel. My angle would be to try to recruit these types of folks for Interrogator-Translator (we call it IT in the Corps) duty. Most of the Christian Arabs I know are hard working, decent people just trying to get by like any of us. I don't think they're would be any loyalty issue as the big component of faith is out the window.
Posted by Jarhead 2003-10-10 9:15:53 AM||   2003-10-10 9:15:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Jarhead, but doing what you propose would be discriminatory against muslims. Do you think the military would be allowed to do so?
Posted by Sorge  2003-10-10 11:42:03 AM|| []  2003-10-10 11:42:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Sorge,

"but doing what you propose would be discriminatory against muslims."

-Seems to me several muslims serving in our service have already scewed it up for the rest. I'm not saying we can't still use muslims, but the problem is the Wahabbi sect picks U.S. Military Islamic clerics, I'd change that in a heart beat first of all. Second, I'm talking more about the interrogators but even if we did disguise Arab Christians as clerics to go down to Gitmo I can't think of a law against it as they're not POWs - they're enemy combatants. My point is that we're fighting a war. I'm not worried about scoring political points, I'm not worried about pissing off the PC crowd, I'm concerned w/saving American lives and killing the enemies of our country with speed and certainty.

Do you think the military would be allowed to do so?

-From a PC standpoint definitely not. CIA involvement would be more necessary. However, who says we have to reveal to the Gitmo prisoners that their "new" IT's or faux-clerics are Christians. F*ck'em they're not POWs - they're enemy combatants, we can lie and be deceitful to them as much as we want to get the info we need.

I know my logic may seem crass but this is what I think needs to be done to help handle the security leaks.
Posted by Jarhead 2003-10-10 12:36:11 PM||   2003-10-10 12:36:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The article used one Jewish Group as a sample. Unfortunately, the folks applying for positions out of that group had all operated with the IDF. I don't know that the answer to Al Q infiltration should be Mossad infiltration. In a pinch, though, you could have each infiltrator provide opposing translations and interpolate.
Posted by Super Hose  2003-10-10 12:40:43 PM||   2003-10-10 12:40:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Maybe we need Mossad translators. We are not playing pat-a-cake ya know. We need results. PC will kill us. It almost did 9-11. We are the most powerful nation in the world, yet we are stumbling around like a cave troll. Let's get with the program with good arabic translators.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-10-10 1:40:26 PM||   2003-10-10 1:40:26 PM|| Front Page Top

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