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2003-10-06 Fifth Column

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Posted by Atrus 2003-10-06 1:55:18 PM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 the link is for the LA Times, which requires registration

Posted by Frank G 2003-10-6 2:10:19 PM|| 2003-10-6 2:10:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 This guy is paid to teach not to indoctrinate.

Is there any way to get this guy refunding the tax
payer with the INTEGRALITY of his salaries since he started to work?

Posted by JFM 2003-10-6 2:45:23 PM|| 2003-10-6 2:45:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 JFM

I disagree. The teacher is paid to perform whatever function the local school board is willing to put up with. Child indoctrionation only happens when the parents allow it.

Posted by Superhose 2003-10-6 3:20:27 PM|| 2003-10-6 3:20:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Then sue the school and/or the state. You are not
paying taxes for having your child indoctrinated. In fact you are not paying taxes to have anyone's child indoctrinated (those child are future voters).
School is supposed to be secular, right? No reason it is allowed to be political.

There are also other aspects. First, a teacher is in a better position to influence people than say, an engineer. Second, there is the aspect of an adult abusing his position to get his way with children. IMHO a teacher who indoctrinates children is not so far away as a teacher who uses
his authority to have sex with them. It is
a rape of consciences, of consciences too weak to oppose a proper defense.

BTW, if you want to know why I am so sanguine: I had communist teachers.

Posted by JFM 2003-10-6 4:50:10 PM|| 2003-10-6 4:50:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 This is a charter school, so parents have to apply for their children and can take them out for a standard LA school. But, Joanne Jacobs points out the students have improved 2 1/2 years in reading ability in one year. If they learn to read, they can learn what pap their teachers are feeding them. If they can't read, the lessons on Guatemala will just be reinforced by the indoctrination of PBS, ABC, et. al.

Evidence of the students' ability to sift through the indoctrination is in the article: " In the spring, a student survey in the school newspaper found that the social studies classes, which most closely identified with this school's stated mission, were by the far the students' least favorite. An accompanying editorial suggested the reason: "At the door you can feel the boredom brewing." McDougal said he regretted their sentiment, but was glad they felt free to voice their opinion."

Posted by Mr. Davis 2003-10-6 4:53:00 PM|| 2003-10-6 4:53:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Evidence of the students' ability to sift through the indoctrination is in the article: " In the spring, a student survey in the school newspaper found that the social studies classes, which most closely identified with this school's stated mission, were by the far the students' least favorite. An accompanying editorial suggested the reason: "At the door you can feel the boredom brewing."

There's still a problem - even if students are able to sift through the indoctrination, they aren't challenging what's being said. Even if the students are bored, at some point in time later on in life there's a good chance they'll remember the crap that was dispensed in class and, assuming that they don't do research of their own, will likely tailor their beliefs accordingly.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-10-6 5:16:16 PM|| 2003-10-6 5:16:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Maybe Ah-nuld can have a long heart-to-heart with the staff of this public school in a couple of weeks, once the entire recall thing settles down. Something along the line of "this isn't going to happen in MY state..."

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-10-6 7:54:54 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-10-6 7:54:54 PM|| Front Page Top

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