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2003-09-30 Iraq
Ankara links Iraq force to US action over Kurds
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Posted by Murat 2003-09-30 6:43:20 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I do agree thee PKK needs to be eliminated.Like any deal goods or services have to completed for the deal to go through.Kiss that 8.7 bill goodbye.Didn't expect anything from the Paks/Indians to begin with.

If SKor dosn't want to help,thats ok we have 37,000 troops that are helping protect their ass we can always pull out of Korea.
Posted by Raptor  2003-9-30 7:43:47 AM||   2003-9-30 7:43:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Murat: Felsefe yapma!

You're too smart to be falling for the "it's all about oil" nonsense. If this were "all about oil" we wouldn't be helping the Iraqi people--at great monetary and (for the troops on the ground) personal sacrifice--to build a decent country out of the ruins of Saddam's thugocracy. We'd be occupying the oil fields and carpet bombing the rest.

The Kurds of Iraq suffered greatly under the prior regime--in part because two previous U.S. administrations and the UN left Saddam in power when we had the ability to remove him--and Kurds are God's children just like anyone else. Whether they end up as jujst another part of free Iraq, or have some sort of autonomy within a federal system, or create an independent Kurdistan, is up to them (and the rest of Iraq) to work out. It should not be decided in Ankara, or Washington--and definietly not Paris or Brussels!

As far as the PKK is concerned, I do not think anyone here has a problem with going after them. They're just another terrorist group, and whatever the justice of the Kurdish cause, the PKK is an enemy of civilization.

As for Kurdish issues north of the border, that is something your country needs to work through. Just keep in mind that Kurds--and Turks!--are "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, [and] among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness," and you'll do fine. However, resolution of Kurdish issues north of the border does not require Ankara to exercise hegemony south of the border.
Posted by Mike  2003-9-30 8:30:38 AM||   2003-9-30 8:30:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 There are enough Pakistanis in Iraq already, they're the ones wearing the "We love Mullah Omar" shoulder patches and attacking our convoys. Indians troops in Iraq would have drawn these to them like flies to honey, so they would have been a liability. PKK is a terrorist group, the problem is that every Kurd looks like a PKK member to the Turkish military. Turkish forces in the Kurdish zone would be a disaster waiting to happen. Thanks, but no thanks, we have enough problems.
Posted by Steve  2003-9-30 8:37:31 AM||   2003-9-30 8:37:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Steve, Mike,

Ever heard of a Kurd named Turgut Ozal (big buddy of Bush senior) and former prime minister and President of Turkey. Seems that we can differ between a normal Kurd and PKK member, your conclusion is crap.

Commenting on the Turkish deployment of troops requested by Washington, I am very glad that foreign and military issues there are run by a squad of morons. Any skilful politician in Washington could easily get Ankara’s cooperation to send up to 100.000 troops, but the current Washington dodo’s cannot even manage to convince Ankara on 10.000 troops. But this is of no surprise since they fail globally accusing almost everyone of siding with Saddam.
Posted by Murat 2003-9-30 9:10:28 AM||   2003-9-30 9:10:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 The final cure of the US foreign policy, mrs Laura Bush can help to lap up the battered US image. Hehehe :)

Anyway, she'll defenitely will sure do a lot better than that bunch of morons!
Posted by Murat 2003-9-30 9:21:26 AM||   2003-9-30 9:21:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Please don't feed the troll....
Posted by Frank G  2003-9-30 9:39:57 AM||   2003-9-30 9:39:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Screw waiting for South Korea to make a decisioon. The 2ID would make a great replacement and does not require anyone else's approval. The SK's in general hate the US and have lips that are addicted to Lil Kimeeeee's ass. It would be a very good move on our part and save us much irritation in Korea.
Posted by Michael  2003-9-30 10:29:14 AM||   2003-9-30 10:29:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Turkish forces in the Kurdish zone would be a disaster waiting to happen.

And you figured that out all by yourself mr. Wiz kid? What about the approx. 3.000 troops which are there since 1998, why is there still no disaster (except the Americans).
Posted by Murat 2003-9-30 10:29:20 AM||   2003-9-30 10:29:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I was in Korea once. All of the 50 & over population can't thank us enough for being there because they remember. The under 30 SKor crowd can kiss my as^. No sense of history. I agree w/pulling out of Korea, if they can't see why we're there then I say bye. Same w/Okinawa, mainland Japan, Germany and definitely Puerto Rico. Bring the rest of the lads home. We can redeploy them on our own southern border for counter drug ops and illegal immigrant prevention.
Posted by Jarhead 2003-9-30 10:54:01 AM||   2003-9-30 10:54:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 What does "felsefe yapma" mean?
Posted by Katz 2003-9-30 4:04:32 PM||   2003-9-30 4:04:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 *Yawns* 27 Billion greenbacks says you, and every other liberal terrified of a democratic Iraq, is wrong about it being "all about oil", murat. Care to match and raise?
Posted by Ptah  2003-9-30 5:51:51 PM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2003-9-30 5:51:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 There was no disaster with the Turkish troops in Iraq because the U.S. told them not to cause one
Posted by Anonymous 2003-9-30 7:28:36 PM||   2003-9-30 7:28:36 PM|| Front Page Top

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