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2003-09-10 Europe

Munich Police Foil Bomb Attack by Neo-Nazis

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Posted by True German Ally 2003-09-10 1:50:06 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The only thing I disagree with is the term "far right". These are fascist extremists. Far right is Pat Buchanan. These guys don't even play in the same universe. Catch them, whack them, and dump their bodies deep in one of the played-out salt mines around Salzburg. Ohly the guy doing the dumping should really know where these guys are iced.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-9-10 2:37:25 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-9-10 2:37:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 OP: Indeed. When exactly was it that racist groups became eternally associated with right-of-centre politics? And who did it? How exactly are the Nazis, the National Socialist German Workers' Party, so wildly different from Communists? Isn't it time to bring this slander to an end?!

Posted by Anonymous 2003-9-10 3:17:37 PM|| 2003-9-10 3:17:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Uh the Nazis managed to form a coalition with Huber - something , help me here TGA - 's Nationalists, a party that was, well far right. Politics in 1920s Germany was not based just on economics, but on views on democracy, order, war, etc. in that sense there was a continuum, and the Nazis were at the far end.

Lets see - moderate Germany rightists were skeptical of democracy, and were nostalgic for monarchy. Nazis despised democracy. Moderate German rightists chaffed at the restrictions on the German military, and wanted to revise Germanys eastern boundaries - to which end they wanted to engage in diplomatic maneuvering, economic penetration, etc. Nazis tossed aside the Versailles restrictions, and revised boundaries by force.

You might just as well argue that communists are not leftists.

Posted by liberalhawk 2003-9-10 3:39:43 PM|| 2003-9-10 3:39:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 What I'm saying, LH, is that people that strung out over an agenda don't even play in the political spectrum. They have nothing but disdain for politics and politicians. They are totalitarians first, last, and always. Their entire basis for existence is the imposition by force of their ideas. Referring to them using political expressions like "far-right" or "far-left" is distracting and useless. These nutcases don't "fit" in the political spectrum at all. Politics is the art of achieving results without having to use force. These idiots LIVE to use force - it's often replaced religion in their psyche, or incorporated as part of their religion (I.E., the Wahabis). We need to use labels that have nothing to do with politics, so we don't confuse the process. I still go back to "whack 'em & stack 'em", because that's the only language they understand. THey sure as hell don't belong among the civilized members of this world.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-9-10 5:26:36 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-9-10 5:26:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I think both OP and LH have valid points. The Nazis were never just "far right", they combined extreme nationalism with socialist ideas (not just in their party name). That made it easy for German communists to become nazis in the 30s, and in the 50s many nazis became good East German communists.

Les extrÃªmes se touchent (pardon my French). One of the leading masterminders of Leftist German terrorism in the 60s and 70s, Horst Mahler, is now a Neo-Nazi (one of the prominent antisemitic/antiamerican WTC conspiracy propagators btw).

Posted by True German Ally 2003-9-10 6:09:44 PM|| 2003-9-10 6:09:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Applying a left or right tag Stalinists is to give them credit for an actual idealogy other than "whatever convinces the saps to give me and let me keep power."

As always though, internal terrorists shall be ignorred with respect to international terrorist at grave risk. Several folks dies in Oklahoma City so its helpful to watch your six.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-9-10 8:07:14 PM|| 2003-9-10 8:07:14 PM|| Front Page Top

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