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2003-09-05 Home Front
Senators show they DON’T have cajones concerning Estrada
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Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2003-09-05 12:33:59 PM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 RTFO Cyber Sarge. Sad fact is the spineless Reps didn't even force the Socialists into a real filibuster. Next go around this has got to be the strategy....I predict 36 hours and the Socialists will fold. This is tyrrany of the minority, and it has to be stopped now!
Posted by Rex Mundi 2003-9-5 12:56:55 PM||   2003-9-5 12:56:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Don't forget Schumer, MALDEF, and like-minded organizations. Estrada just wasn't "Hispanic" enough. The Repubs gave in to the diversity-by-pigmentaton crowd. No guts. This event is another reason I'm not feeling good about WOT and 2004 election. If Repubs. start to treat our opponents domestically and internationally as victims of the Angry White Male, God help us. We need diversity in thinking to tackle problems, friends. BTW, Cyber, which party are you thinking of joining?
Posted by michael 2003-9-5 12:59:29 PM||   2003-9-5 12:59:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 To do the round the clock thing, the republicans would have had to keep a quorum round the clock. The dems only needed to keep one anti Estrada person around.

The Senate committee rules are stacked in favor of the kind of device used by the dems this time.
Posted by mhw 2003-9-5 1:40:54 PM||   2003-9-5 1:40:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 mhw: I find it real difficult to swallow that the party in control of the Senate was powerless against the minority. They either wouldn't or didn't want to make this a battle. They have been outfoxed by the Dems too many times. It's time for them to draw a line in the sand and dare the Dems to cross it.
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2003-9-5 3:28:15 PM||   2003-9-5 3:28:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I agree, Cyber Sarge. I think the Senate
Republicans found their sleep too precious to give
up.

I'd have loved to see those goof-balls reading
from Chinese take-out menus on the floor of the
Senate at 3 am.

It's not too late to take a stand on at least ONE
of these nominees...

eL
Posted by eLarson 2003-9-5 3:38:19 PM||   2003-9-5 3:38:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I've heard the excuse that the GOP had to keep 51 senators there vs 1 democrat. If true they should still have found a way to get these nominations through.
The one bright side is that if the GOP is smart it will a winning issue for them in the 04 elections (i.e. Dems blocking hispanics, women, minorities). However, unless the GOP gets a filibuster proof 60 seats the Dems can keep doing this.
Posted by AWW 2003-9-5 4:30:14 PM||   2003-9-5 4:30:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 It seems the republicans have all the ideas and not an ounce of guts to implement them, its just sickening
Posted by wills 2003-9-5 5:15:18 PM||   2003-9-5 5:15:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I am a registered independent, and see the dems for the self-destructive units that they are. But here are the republicans, with a majority of the public wanting safety, freedom, and some assurance that their values of decency and family are preserved. The Republicans could run with this and make some things happen, but they are afraid that the dems and the liberal left will yell at them. So they try to smooth things over and keep getting run over. Where do the majority of responsible and concerned Americans go? The republicans are (wussy pussies)^2, and they deserve our contempt. Bloody invertibrates.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-9-5 5:26:17 PM||   2003-9-5 5:26:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Has the WHite House ever heard of recess appointments? Granted the senate republicans are gutless wonders, but Bush doesn't seem to have the fire in his belly for domestic politics, unless it is signing liberal legislation.
Posted by Douglas De Bono  2003-9-5 6:05:35 PM|| [http://www.douglasdebono.com]  2003-9-5 6:05:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 As much as I applaud the President's performance in many areas, he let this good man and all the rest of us down. He needed to back up his words with action and instead left him hanging. That worries me about the future.
Posted by Sgt.D.T.  2003-9-5 7:03:16 PM||   2003-9-5 7:03:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Recess appointments.

Bush did appoint Pipes during the recess. I don't think he can do the same with judges, though.

Saw Hatch on Fox with Tony Snow tonight. He left me with the impression that the Seante will pass a budget and possibly the supplemental for Iraq. They will then use the nuclear option to change the requirement to 51 votes at which point things will get really ugly in the Senate -- like it was in the House a month ago when they were calling each other "fruitcakes" and buzzing for the cops.

This will be done just in time for the campaign season during which the GOP goal will be to end up with a super-majority in the Senate.

I may be wildly off base. If I am right this will be quite entertaining. EMS will need to be standing by to provide assistance to Kennedy. He doesn't look like he lives a healthy life.
Posted by Super Hose  2003-9-5 7:42:02 PM||   2003-9-5 7:42:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Cowardly of Bush not to recess him. Unless he means to appoint Estrada directly to the Supremes anyway -- which would be a hell of a payback. Otherwise, Bush screwed it.
Posted by someone 2003-9-5 8:57:52 PM||   2003-9-5 8:57:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Well, Frist did say this isn't over.

We'll see.

I'm VERY disappointed by the Admin and pubbies on this.
Posted by Anonymous 2003-9-7 3:55:48 AM||   2003-9-7 3:55:48 AM|| Front Page Top

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