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2003-08-29 Home Front
Common Sense makes startling appearance in Washington!
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Posted by Norman Rogers 2003-08-29 8:12:47 AM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Best government money can buy...
Posted by Hiryu 2003-8-29 8:47:33 AM||   2003-8-29 8:47:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 *Shakes head* Doesn't mean a blessed thing: There is a lot of evidence that "scientific" journals that champion "Global warming" use a biased peer review process, sending ALL papers, pro AND con, ONLY to "Global Warming" advocates, who (obviously) warmly praise junk papers supporting their position and erecting artificially high hurdles when the papers present empirical evidence otherwise. (The people whose papers are rejected are not told who peer reviewed them, but at conferences, they swap notes and realized none of their number were ever sent a paper to peer review that was on global warming.)

The vast majority of anti-global warming sceintists are active meteorologists and experimental Climatologists: the very ones who deal with the raw data. The majority of global warming advocates are theoreticians who pay more attention to their computer simulations and use carefully selected historical data to "calibrate" their "models".

Believe me, I've been in the academic jungle, and have seen how the food chain is set up. You'll always find a "researcher" at some prestigious university who's willing to prostitute themselves for a grant.
Posted by Ptah  2003-8-29 9:43:42 AM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2003-8-29 9:43:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Yeah, why let hard science get in the way of regulations. After all, we are doing it for The Children(tm).
Posted by Steve  2003-8-29 9:50:27 AM||   2003-8-29 9:50:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Every little bit of change to the process helps. Prior to this EPA would make rules without even publishing the supporting data, forcing industry to pursue long, expensive lawsuits to get their hands on the data. By the time it was released, the rule had been on the books too long to change anything. This, combined with the Data Quality Act, will be a big help.

It's also a good sign that the Administration went ahead with the Clean Air Act changes to NSR (started under Clinton, by the way) and have just rejected the silly notion that CO2 is a pollutant. Maybe somebody's getting some cojones in the EPA.
Posted by RonB 2003-8-29 1:02:15 PM||   2003-8-29 1:02:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe somebody's getting some cojones in the EPA

didn't Christie Whitman just get fired resign to spend more time with the family?
Posted by Frank G  2003-8-29 5:15:37 PM||   2003-8-29 5:15:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Peer Review?! I bet RJ Reynolds paid scientists will be "peer reviewing" smoking issues; Archer Daniels Midland purveyor of corporate jets to the Doles paid scientists will deal with agricultural issues --the fox is back in the henhouse folks! I'll give the Repooplicans credit tho' --this time they don't have Newtie ranting and turning off middle America while they are gutting every regulation possible to pay off their corporate masters. Please, please bring out DeLay so the elctorate can see the real
GOP!
Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-8-29 5:26:20 PM||   2003-8-29 5:26:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Okay.... Which one of youse guys is hidin' Delay? Is it you, Steve?

Anyway, NMM-- your position seems to be that it's a bad thing to have scientists review the work of bureaucrats because some scientists do junk science. Is that a fair summary? If so, your position is, er, idiotic.
Posted by TPF  2003-8-29 6:57:41 PM||   2003-8-29 6:57:41 PM|| Front Page Top

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