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2003-07-31 Korea

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Posted by Mark IV 2003-07-31 10:23:56 PM|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 You develop them, we'll show you how they work. We'll use Big Kimmie's massive statue as an aiming point. That ought to calm Pyongyang. Permanently.

Posted by tu3031 2003-7-31 10:57:16 PM|| 2003-7-31 10:57:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Notice the assumption that the name-calling and it's effect on the Nork negotiations was not deliberate. Nope, that would mean that Administration wasn't just a bunch of simplistic, bumbling, bullies. Couldn't be that the administration is playing a game deeper than Business Week can grasp. Nah just a faux pas from a loose cannon, big-mouthed clumsy Bush team.

Would it be crass at this point to mention that the Norks, and everyone else, is free to talk trash all the time. You know: Imperialist aggressors, running amok, and all that...

Bolton's speech appears to have preceeded the recent announcements about possible 6-way talks. Does anyone know this? It would be interesting if it did. Even more interesting if it didn't.

Posted by Tokyo Taro 2003-7-31 10:59:59 PM|| 2003-7-31 10:59:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Mark IV: This is so bad and on so many levels, I don't know where to begin. History? Logic? Negotiating 101? I think instead we should leave it alone to stand as a monument to shortsightedness, appeasement, and pomposity. In those ways, it is truly a masterpiece.

Posted by 11A5S 2003-7-31 11:20:13 PM|| 2003-7-31 11:20:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 First of all, I am continually amazed that people here complain when we note that Pyongyang is a brutal dictatorship that starves its own people. We are "not helping matters" when we do that.

On the other hand, when North Korea routinely threatens to turn Seoul into a "sea of fire" that is just their quaint way of saying "let's talk."

More basically, I'm simply astounded that people argue that we can trust the psychopaths of Pyongyang. They are SO paranoid that even if we signed a perpetual non-aggression pact and pledged $5 billion a year in aid they'd STILL think the clever round-eyes were plotting to invade!

If they think we plan to invade with a 2-brigade 2nd Infantry Division--or that Seoul would join us--they cannot be convinced we aren't out to get them.

I'm not sure what the solution is but we won't be safe until the regime in Pyongyang is gone.

This decade sucks...

Posted by BJD (The Dignified Rant) 2003-7-31 11:44:42 PM|| [www.geocities.com/brianjamesdunn/TDRhome.html] 2003-7-31 11:44:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Thanks, guys... sometimes, it gets late, and ya think you're the only one.

11-alpha, you're right, this really defies comment. You can zero in on "unknowns: Does Pyongyang intend to develop nukes regardless of what the U.S. does?"..."Then again, we wonât know the answers until the U.S., North Korea, and its neighbors sit down, talk, draft a proposal, and sign it," and marvel, but then you back up and go through it again, and a whole new world of Korean roulette opens.

Taro-sama nails it... dontcha think all diplospeak is calculated for effect? Even, in their crude and bizarre way, the NKOR's (give us money or we'll make a fuss)?

So maybe ours' means, "no and shut up" or maybe it means "5 bil is too high, let's talk 1.5 and a pretense at human rights". Or maybe it means, "check out Baghdad, and we weren't even pissed at them."

Their dice, their move. Dontcha guess wrong now, y'hear?

Posted by Mark IV 2003-8-1 12:23:44 AM|| 2003-8-1 12:23:44 AM|| Front Page Top

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