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2003-07-29 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Public Service Announcement: `idiotarian` or `villepinism`?
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Posted by PD 2003-07-29 6:55:18 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Fred - I snarfed the title... it should either be idiotarianism -or- villepinist - your choice. Sorry.
Posted by PD 2003-7-29 6:59:55 AM||   2003-7-29 6:59:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "villepinism" should be reserved for use describing government officials or policy.
"idiotarian" should be used for the media and other self-anointed morons.
Posted by Steve  2003-7-29 8:24:08 AM||   2003-7-29 8:24:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm with Steve on this one. Sounds like a good criteria. Of course, "useless fool" could be substituted for either, as can "asshat(s)" which has become a current favorite of mine...heh heh.

I'm sure M. de Villepin subscribes to the "weak dollar" theory to explain the 80% drop in Americans visiting France this year - see post in Europe section below
Posted by Frank G  2003-7-29 9:04:36 AM||   2003-7-29 9:04:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Not only is it an English word, but it should be pronounced "vil-uh-pin-iz-um", with the "vil" like "village".
Posted by Anonymous 2003-7-29 9:20:42 AM||   2003-7-29 9:20:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I dunno. I think the spelling "villepenism" would be more fitting, if not as loyal to the inspiration.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2003-7-29 10:21:57 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2003-7-29 10:21:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm with Steve - though Robert Crawford has a valid point. :-)
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2003-7-29 10:42:20 AM||   2003-7-29 10:42:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Oh, I think "Frenchman" is quite sufficient.
Posted by someone 2003-7-29 11:24:26 AM||   2003-7-29 11:24:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I think you need both words to describe the motive or intent of the subject.

"Idiotarian" suggest someone who is clueless with respect to his position or philosophy. One can espouse a particular point of view without promoting an agenda or being concerned with an outcome.

On the other hand, "villepinism" clearly conotes motive and an awareness of goal.

Robert Fisk is not an idiotarian. Yet my next door neighbour....
Posted by john  2003-7-29 2:39:44 PM||   2003-7-29 2:39:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "Villepinism" doesn't stand for "idiotarian" but for "vainglorism".
Robert Crawford, "Villepenism" would confirm the suspicion that Villepin is indeed a man.
Posted by True German Ally 2003-7-29 2:54:20 PM||   2003-7-29 2:54:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 TGA, does that mean that a certain female British actress harboring Chechnyan thugs in her London apartment can't be a villepenist?

I guess it's my English that is the problem. Perhaps we need, as the German langauge has, proper pronouns. How about, for the wimmin, "villepenis" -- no, no, that will never work.
Posted by Steve White  2003-7-29 3:43:11 PM||   2003-7-29 3:43:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Robert Crawford, "Villepenism" would confirm the suspicion that Villepin is indeed a man.

Nah -- it would just be calling him a dick. No need to be a male to be a dick.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2003-7-29 4:34:24 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2003-7-29 4:34:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I think vilepinism needs a separate definition from idiotarianiam. Villipinism also implies siding with evil just to fuck your buddy whereas some idiotarians actually believe in what they are doing.....
Posted by Luigi 2003-7-29 5:25:09 PM||   2003-7-29 5:25:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 So if someone is a real asshat, we could call them the "village idiotarian"?
Posted by John 2003-7-31 1:19:55 PM||   2003-7-31 1:19:55 PM|| Front Page Top

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