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2003-07-27 Middle East

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Posted by Fred Pruitt 2003-07-27 00:07|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It's only 22 per cent of the historical Palestinian territory ...

My math might be off, but pre-1967 Israel is a lot bigger than the West Bank and Gaza. Add it all up and it isn't 100% of any ~~hysterical~~ "historical" Palestine, unless you ... include Jordan. Hmmmm, wonder if a message is being sent?

Posted by Steve White 2003-7-27 12:41:47 AM|| 2003-7-27 12:41:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "Why should we go to civil war against our own people?"
Uh, because you agreed to do so when you accepted the "roadmap" to peace? DOH! Classic Arab duplicity and selectivity... Lying motherfuckers.

Public Service Information...

Here's the text of the "roadmap" to peace. For reference, here's the text of the "hudna" agreements of Hamas, Fatah, and Islamic Jihad (Al Aqsa, a renegade (???) component of Fatah, refused to sign either or write their own) that's supposed to get the roadmap off the ground and help the PA fulfill the Phase I Security requirements placed upon it.

Key Observations:
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1) The borders will be established as those existing on Sept 28, 2000 - not 1967 borders. (Phase I Introduction)
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2) The Phase I Security section has a number of requirements - judge for yourself how GOI (Govt of Israel) and the PA are doing, thusfar - and who's making a bona-fide effort vs lip service and obfuscation.
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3) Phase I Palestinian Institution Building - other than appointing PM Abbas / Mazen / whatever, nothing in this section appears to be underway. I guess the Pals know something some of us don't seem to get: this is a joke.
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4) There is no mention, zero, zip, nada, of requiring Israel to release any prisoners, much less all as demanded by the "hudna" linked above.
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5) The only GOI Phase I requirement that is not being fulfilled in its entirety, thusfar, is the Settlements section.

This puppy is doomed for the usual reason which Fred points out: "To date, the Paleos have never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity..."

Here's a link to a FrontPage Symposium which poses the question Roadmap To What? (well put, IMHO) which you may find of interest.
R.I.P. - Q.E.D.

Posted by PD 2003-7-27 3:12:04 AM|| 2003-7-27 3:12:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 "It is an uncivilised wall," Abbas told the news weekly.

Suicide/murder bombings are even less civilized.

"Why should we go to civil war against our own people?"

In other words, "We will not live up to our end of the agreement".

"I believe that if [Israel can be confined] within the 1967 borders, [Hamas] will live with it and will accept it. It's only 22 per cent of the historical Palestinian territory," he said in the issue of Newsweek that appears on news stands on Monday.

Sorry, but it isn't Israel that needs to be "confined".

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-7-27 4:17:34 AM|| 2003-7-27 4:17:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 We would be much better off if we took any aid to the Paleos ($100 mil lately?) and bought more concrete for the friggin wall. Can't you hear the wails and gnashing of teeth once the Paleos are left to their own "society" without any Israelis to kill or blame for their own squalor? It'll be a giant ain-el-hilweh. The UN and NGO's will be like pigs in shit...literally

Posted by Frank G 2003-7-27 11:32:22 AM|| 2003-7-27 11:32:22 AM|| Front Page Top

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