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2003-07-26 Middle East

Israel Defies Bush, Claims Separation Wall "Necessity"

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Posted by Frank G 2003-07-26 8:24:51 AM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The fence is a great idea -- if only the Israelis would electrify it!

Posted by Anonymous 2003-7-26 9:30:59 AM|| 2003-7-26 9:30:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Well, hell. If all the noise I've heard today is true (all I get are the Beeb & CNN, sigh) I guess I'll hafta go create a quicky hotmail acct and go to a 'Net Cafe and send the WhiteHouse an email begging Dubya to retract any notion of pressuring Israel to stop building the wall. It's a fucking GREAT idea - and Dubya's overstepping his bounds to presume tell Israel they can't defend their borders as they see fit.

Way too stupid to believe, but stupider things happen every day.

Posted by PD 2003-7-26 10:06:27 AM|| 2003-7-26 10:06:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 It's going to take a generation before the Israelis and Palestinians can talk to each other on a civil basis: Separation is a necessity.

Posted by Hiryu 2003-7-26 11:08:01 AM|| 2003-7-26 11:08:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 And, BTW, when did Israel ever do as told by the US? Just keep the money coming, suckers!

Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-7-26 11:56:39 AM|| 2003-7-26 11:56:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 And, BTW, when did Israel ever do as told by the US? Just keep the money coming, suckers!

And, BTW, when did any of our other aid recipients ever do as told by the US? Korea, Japan, Germany* - which one of them does as they're told? In their eyes, that would be demeaning to them. Just keep the money coming, suckers!

We spend a lot more money on those other allies than we do on Israel. The difference is that Israelis can defend themselves without having our troops on their soil. Not to mention we subsidize our enemies, such as Jordan and Egypt, to keep their crazies under control.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2003-7-26 3:15:47 PM|| 2003-7-26 3:15:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 For the life of me - and I love GWB and most of the things he's done - I don't understand why we would EVER ask Israel to lower defenses against the krazed loser killer cults of the Paleos. Let them rot on the other side of a great big fucking wall. Settlements will either be disbanded or left to their own means of defense, but Israel proper should be a fortress. Move the embassy to Jerusalem now

Posted by Frank G 2003-7-26 4:07:58 PM|| 2003-7-26 4:07:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Zhang I'll bet Israel gets more direct aid than any of those countries--not to mention all the indirect aid re: those "Israel Bond" fund drives here in the US. Anyway, I only care about American interests and peace in the M.E. is in America's interest. If you think there will ever be any type of peace while Israel occupies the West Bank you're delusional.

Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-7-26 5:23:08 PM|| 2003-7-26 5:23:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Does this "aid" come with a stipulation that 50% of it has to be spent on American goods? I think it does. In which case, think of it as transfer payments, to use an economic term.

Posted by Rafael 2003-7-26 6:27:28 PM|| 2003-7-26 6:27:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 If you think there will ever be any type of peace while Israel occupies the West Bank you're delusional.

This is the land-for-peace argument that has been persued for 30 years, and has been a dismal failure. I could give a hundred examples of where Arabs/Muslims will NOT STOP until they removed/converted/liquadated all non-Arabs/non-Muslims, and this includes the West Bank where the christian community has shrunk to close to zero.

It is in the West's vital interests to stop this process and Israel looks as good a place as any to start.

Posted by Phil B 2003-7-26 7:03:05 PM|| 2003-7-26 7:03:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I think a Berlin-style Wall would be a GREAT idea

Bring it on! I will go over there and personally help them mix the concrete!

Perfect solution. Paleos on one side sitting in their squalor until they decide to restructure their society and solve their own problems, Israel on the other.

Only way for suicide bombers to get in is through a heavily fortified gate at which they are subject to searches.

End of suicide bombings, end of problem!

NMM: You'll BET Israel gets more direct aid because you DON'T KNOW why don't you do some research before you spread your opinions?

Zhang Fei: You are a legend

Posted by Anon1 2003-7-26 11:34:01 PM|| 2003-7-26 11:34:01 PM|| Front Page Top

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