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2003-07-23 Iraq

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Posted by Rafael 2003-07-23 1:28:51 PM|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Some Canadians express fear that their Premier is a Cretin, or was it that his name is Chretien?
Oh, well...same difference.

Some chickens express fear that the sky may be falling.

Posted by Hodadenon 2003-7-23 2:39:12 PM|| 2003-7-23 2:39:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 hey so do you want the cbc not to report that yet again in a routine daily attack we have lost men again in Iraq....are you fro censorship...or what do you want...

Posted by stevey robinson 2003-7-23 4:09:52 PM|| 2003-7-23 4:09:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 'fro censorship? Stevey, let's not let this degenerate into a racial thing, k?

Posted by Frank G 2003-7-23 6:25:03 PM|| 2003-7-23 6:25:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Stevey boy,don't you find it just the least bit odd that CBC,NYT, and the rest of the assinie Liberials never report the good things that the troops are doing,and can't seem to report the hundreds of sucessfull operations in a good light?

Damn!Sorry Stevey boy,I forgot.You are one of those assinine Liberials.

Posted by raptor 2003-7-23 6:46:26 PM|| 2003-7-23 6:46:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Relax - we're three months into the occupation of Iraq. If I recall correctly, the last Nazi attack on American troops was staged 4 years after the German surrender. We can do all kinds of clever things with electronics these days, but military occupation still functions on pre-Internet time. If 4 years from now we're still seeing a dozen attacks a day, the commanding general for ground forces will need to be relieved.

For now, things will be hopping until they die down. It's sort of like the Afghan situation before Operation Anaconda - before Anaconda, major chaos with attacks all the time. After Anaconda, a whole lot of nothing. And Anaconda was staged 5 months after the demolition of the Taliban.

The reason we're taking casualties in Iraq is because we're doing the mopping up that the Northern Alliance did for us (and for their own survival) in northern Afghanistan and Karzai's Pashtun allies did for us (and for their own survival) in southern Afghanistan. Our Afghan allies were ultra careful not to expose our men to hostile fire because they were afraid we would cut and run a la Mogadishu. I suspect it was only after Anaconda that they understood we meant business.

At any rate, the mopping up related casualties we are taking in Iraq were sustained by our Afghan allies in Afghanistan. If we want to reduce our casualties, we will need to get an Iraqi volunteer force up and going as soon as possible. They can be less restrained about the use of force for several reasons - (1) as locals, they will get the benefit of the doubt from the local population, (2) there are fewer public relations problems from Iraqis killing Iraqis and (3) they will be much more knowledgeable about local customs and conditions and therefore less worried about making mistakes in threat identification.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2003-7-23 7:06:36 PM|| 2003-7-23 7:06:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 the newyork tims reports good things too..did it not report that udai-qusai demised...and it also reported the creation of the new iraqi pro American puppet regime complete with chalabi who speaks Arabic with a socialite british accent..ude used to live large in Kensington with the likes of diana.....but hey we killed fou guys in that building and since then we have lost four men...

Posted by stevey robinson 2003-7-23 10:03:37 PM|| 2003-7-23 10:03:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Zhang Fei: Good analysis.

Posted by Matt 2003-7-23 10:41:34 PM|| 2003-7-23 10:41:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 since then we have lost four men

I think it's two men. But two, four - it doesn't matter. At the current rate, we'll probably lose another 100 KIA by the end of the year, and possibly 200 KIA for every year of the occupation until the four or five year mark. I think we'll lose perhaps 1000 men total from the Iraq campaign over a period of 4 or 5 years.

In Vietnam, we lost 1500 men KIA a month, and Iraq is a lot more important. Why is it important? Its location allows us to threaten every Islamist / terror-sponsoring regime in the region - whether via airstrikes or as a last resort, removing the recalcitrant governments.

Note that Muslim terrorists attacked us in a time of peace. If they choose to attack our men in Iraq, so much the better. Unlike the passengers on our jetliners on 9/11 who had to fight them off with their bare hands, our men on the ground are equipped to take hits and hit back rapidly and with overwhelming force.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2003-7-23 10:54:29 PM|| 2003-7-23 10:54:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 That's all good & well but what bothers me is when our guys in Baghdad are just sitting targets because someone at the top says "we'll just have to get thru this". And on top of it our guys are supposed to do it with a smile and a candybar in their hand.

Posted by Rafael 2003-7-23 11:31:59 PM|| 2003-7-23 11:31:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Rafael >> Currently, the US is recruiting Iraqi's to form their own Army. They will run joints missions with the US. I believe (due to the lack of serious large scale insurgent activities) that the average Iraqi only cares about restoring their lives back to normal. Sooner or later soldiers and civilians will see the insurgents for what they are (Saddam lackeys)and fight against them for a better life.

I've seen three friends who have come back to Germany and they all pretty much say the same thing. The stooges hang around the Palestine hotel and as soon as they see a TV camera they all break into their horse and pony show. As for the press. Three words: Hook, Line, Sinker.

Iraqis: About 1 in 10 look they'd shoot you if they could get away with it. The other 9 in 10 are happy Sammy is gone. They just want a their normal lives back.

Posted by Paul 2003-7-24 5:41:35 PM|| 2003-7-24 5:41:35 PM|| Front Page Top

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