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2003-03-21 Iraq
US troops arrive in Zakhu via Turkey
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Posted by Steve 2003-03-21 01:20 pm|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Anyone want to bet it's 4ID?
Posted by Dishman  2003-03-21 13:29:56||   2003-03-21 13:29:56|| Front Page Top

#2 4ID's equipment was offloaded in Iskenderun, no?

One point of confusion I have had: TROOPS are not allowed in Turkey. Could we simply contract Turkish shipping companies to move our heavy equipment down into Kurdish territory, and allow our troops to link up w. their equipment once it was there?

Is this what you're getting at Dishman?
Does the 101st have sufficient firepower to deter any funny business between Kurds and Turks? (Especially without Turkish airspace?)
Posted by mjh  2003-03-21 13:47:06||   2003-03-21 13:47:06|| Front Page Top

#3 In Turkey, anything is possible with payment of enough baksheesh. The question is: would any U.S. military operation allow it's equipment to be consigned to a foreign outfit? There is no way for the 4th's train to get fron Iskenderun to Iraqi Kurdistan. Jordan, however, seems to be pretty close to IK....
Posted by Michael Gersh  2003-03-21 14:17:35|| [michaelgersh.blogspot.com]  2003-03-21 14:17:35|| Front Page Top

#4 "Technically", they are not allowing US Troops, they are simply moving "supplies" just across the border, near convenient airfields the Kurds control. That allows the Turks to make armed incursions into Kurdish areas, and sets up the US gear, all without letting the politicians screw this up any further.

They have been q1uietly offloading the lead elements and command element's equipment since well before this started. The Turks have been convoying them to the border, and then into Iraq - aremd convoys. US Troops will be landed in Iraq nearby, married up with their gear, then attack south. The Turkish military know which side its bread is buttered on - and that unless they help us, they will have a buttload of well armed Kurds ready to liberate their brothers *Inside Turkey*, and no way of entereing N. Iraq to do "Peacekeeping".
Posted by OldSpook 2003-03-21 14:22:12||   2003-03-21 14:22:12|| Front Page Top

#5 As far as I know, the only thing offloaded was support equipment, transporters, hummers, etc. Armor and combat equipment are still on board ships. (Unless they did a end run through Israel and Jordan)
Posted by Steve  2003-03-21 14:22:15||   2003-03-21 14:22:15|| Front Page Top

#6 At least some of the photos Murat posted showed M1A2s. mjh, that is exactly what I was getting at.
Posted by Dishman  2003-03-21 14:43:49||   2003-03-21 14:43:49|| Front Page Top

#7 From where? Helicopters don't have an very long range. 100-150 miles, if they're going to make the round trip.
Posted by Chuck  2003-03-21 15:19:31|| [blog.simmins.org]  2003-03-21 15:19:31|| Front Page Top

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