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2003-03-20 Fifth Column

A few in military refuse to fight âwrong warâ

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Posted by tu3031 2003-03-20 01:12 pm|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Any of 'em named Slovik? Eddie Slovik?...

Posted by mojo 3/20/2003 1:15:28 PM|| 3/20/2003 1:15:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 here in San Diego the American Friends Service Committee has dedicated themselves to assisting illegal aliens in their trek into the country out of "humanitarian" reasons - they're garbage

Posted by Frank G 3/20/2003 1:36:13 PM|| 3/20/2003 1:36:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 And that's why to cry CO just before you're about to be sent to battle, when all this time you've kept quiet, is cowardly.

Posted by RW 3/20/2003 3:01:48 PM|| 3/20/2003 3:01:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 I posted an article about that Travis Burnham a week or so ago. I can not figure these people out! Do they think they're going to summer camp? That they're joining the Boy Scouts?

There's no room for this crap in a VOLUNTEER military.

Posted by Dar Steckelberg 2003-03-20 12:49:25|| 2003-03-20 12:49:25|| Front Page Top

#5 I remember. I believe the concensus was...he's the dumb one.

Posted by tu3031 2003-03-20 12:53:27|| 2003-03-20 12:53:27|| Front Page Top

#6 Any of 'em named Slovik? Eddie Slovik?...

Posted by mojo 2003-03-20 13:15:28|| 2003-03-20 13:15:28|| Front Page Top

#7 here in San Diego the American Friends Service Committee has dedicated themselves to assisting illegal aliens in their trek into the country out of "humanitarian" reasons - they're garbage

Posted by Frank G 2003-03-20 13:36:13|| 2003-03-20 13:36:13|| Front Page Top

#8 A good solution for these volunteer "conscientious objectors" would be to garnish their wages until they have paid back all that the military has spent on them. That ON TOP of a dishonorable discharge.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-03-20 13:49:53|| 2003-03-20 13:49:53|| Front Page Top

#9 They're nothing but cowards.

Posted by RW 2003-03-20 13:58:36|| 2003-03-20 13:58:36|| Front Page Top

#10 I used to belong to the Church whose members are mentioned here as either serving as medics or as medical guinea pigs during WW II. The counsel of the Church is to file IMMEDIATELY for CO status the moment you're drafted, AND to apply for medically related services.

And they weren't cowards. One was Desmond T. Doss, a Medal of Honor winner.

The whole situation changes when there's a volunteer army, however. The Church said they couldn't help anyone or vouch for anyone who volunteered for the military, since that was totally inconsistent with a belief system worthy of CO status.

Posted by Ptah 2003-03-20 14:31:27|| 2003-03-20 14:31:27|| Front Page Top

#11 And that's why to cry CO just before you're about to be sent to battle, when all this time you've kept quiet, is cowardly.

Posted by RW 2003-03-20 15:01:48|| 2003-03-20 15:01:48|| Front Page Top

#12 I hope his comrades send him white feathers with their calling cards - just like they did in the movie.

I say let him out with a dishonorable discharge after finishing out his contract (unpaid) in the brig. Let him rot away one full year of his 20's. Would you want to fight with this guy covering your back?

With a dishonorable discharge following him FOR LIFE, even if he manages to scrape his way through college, with the menial tasks available to him, he'll quickly discover that a good number of jobs, credit and self-respect will forever be beyond his grasp.

I say give him the albatross - he deserves it.

Posted by becky 2003-03-20 15:20:10|| 2003-03-20 15:20:10|| Front Page Top

#13 One would have to be extremely dumb to NOT realize the military's sole purpose is to fight wars, either in defense of your country, or in aid of another country's liberation or defense. I can't think how anyone could not come to that conclusion. If one was a CO, they shouldn't volunteer. There's no draft. If I were young and healthy, I'd love to be over there with them as part of the troops too.

Posted by mog 2003-03-20 15:55:40|| [www.mindofmog.net/] 2003-03-20 15:55:40|| Front Page Top

#14 What a fun thread! I've received two emails from a SFC(R) C.J. Townsend attacking me, not only for my comment, but the comments of others on this article!

She says, "I have news for you, pal, anybody who can endure a few years in today's Army of One deserves a little college money for his or her troubles."

Well, I agree. But I also think if they're joining just for the college money, they think they can pick and choose what orders they're going to follow, and they can just walk out when they feel like it, they're morons.

It's the military. The military is called upon to fight wars. It's not a democracy.

If they want college money and won't fight when ordered, they can work at McDonald's and/or get student loans.

Posted by Dar Steckelberg 2003-03-20 18:32:22|| 2003-03-20 18:32:22|| Front Page Top

#15 -they can work at McDonald's and/or get student loans.-

And there's always the 5-7 year plan.

Posted by Anonymous 2003-03-21 01:00:13|| 2003-03-21 01:00:13|| Front Page Top

#16 "SFC(R) C.J."
Hey d-ass,When you ask to join a Volentary military.You had better expect to go to war,you don't have the luxuary to say"I quit"and slither home,without faceing serious consequiences.
The military pays's matching funds in college money,why should the military pay these cowards for violateing thier contract.

Posted by raptor 2003-03-21 07:09:54|| 2003-03-21 07:09:54|| Front Page Top

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