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2003-03-18 Iraq

Russia and France angered by end of diplomacy

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Posted by Steve White 2003-03-18 12:15 am|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 It's becoming clear that France, Germany and Russia are going to make a word play for the US being brought up before a Tribunal. It would be funny, considering their own exploits, if such a large percentage of the public weren't such lemmings unable to make the required mental connection.

France and Germany would be wise to remember that Russia will always looking over it's shoulder with more concern to the East, than it ever will to the West. And as such, it will never truly be their ally.

Posted by becky 3/18/2003 7:54:35 AM|| 3/18/2003 7:54:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Although Russia and China were opposed to the resolution, and the so-called "middle six" uncommitted nations had not been won over,...

Mexico is one of these "middle six". I would love nothing more than for a whole bunch of workplace roundups and deportations of Mexican illegal aliens to begin sometime soon. Preferably NOW.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-03-18 00:33:06|| 2003-03-18 00:33:06|| Front Page Top

#3 Unlike the Cretin to the North, President Fox has not put a knife in our back. Mexico has a 100 year tradition of opposition to involvement in War except for self-defense and you have to respect them for the courage of their convictions. An honorable friend can disagree and still be a friend. Let them stay home and watch our backs - they will do a better job than that clown in Canukistan.

Posted by edwardvt 2003-03-18 05:35:08|| 2003-03-18 05:35:08|| Front Page Top

#4 It's becoming clear that France, Germany and Russia are going to make a word play for the US being brought up before a Tribunal. It would be funny, considering their own exploits, if such a large percentage of the public weren't such lemmings unable to make the required mental connection.

France and Germany would be wise to remember that Russia will always looking over it's shoulder with more concern to the East, than it ever will to the West. And as such, it will never truly be their ally.

Posted by becky 2003-03-18 07:54:35|| 2003-03-18 07:54:35|| Front Page Top

#5 We're not going to punish mexico or anyone in the middle six. That would contradict our stand that we would have won it hadnt been for French intransigence. I think one of the reasons that we didnt go through with vote was precisely to save the middle 6 from voting - by avoiding a vote we obviate the need to reward yes votes,or punish no votes. We will continue to pursue policies we see in our interests, including maintaining relations with them. The real strain will be with France.

Re:" a tribunal" the only tribunal for judging states is - the UNSC. I am quite sure France will not go there, as they would certainly not even get a majority.

Posted by liberalhawk 2003-03-18 08:01:44|| 2003-03-18 08:01:44|| Front Page Top

#6 We will surely take advantage of any documents found in Iraq reflecting embargo-busting by French and German companies. These should be made public by a vote in the UNSC....wouldn't that be delicious?

Posted by Frank G 2003-03-18 08:22:05|| 2003-03-18 08:22:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Becky, Russia has been very interested in the west on notable occcasions, and primarily with the French and Germans. Back in the pre-US pre-eminence period when there really were empires, France and Germany invaded Russia, and nearly succeeded, on three occasions. True, Russia has been suspicious of its oriental neighbours since Ghengis Khan's days, but its real nemesis has, in recent history, been European. I suppose the US, being a perceived threat from the west and the east, and the north, must've really given them the willies.

Posted by Bulldog 2003-03-18 08:22:53|| 2003-03-18 08:22:53|| Front Page Top

#8 Vincente Fox cannot *possibly* be this dumb. It makes no sense for Mexico to try and shaft the US. They need us one hell of a lot more than we need them. NAFTA, anyone?...

Posted by mojo 2003-03-18 10:12:11|| 2003-03-18 10:12:11|| Front Page Top

#9 Mexico should not be the issue here. We need to focus all such inclinations into a slap-in-the-face to France. I seriously believe that the French ambassador to the U.S. should be sent home for at least the duration of the war.

Posted by Tom 2003-03-18 10:47:37|| 2003-03-18 10:47:37|| Front Page Top

#10 --In Moscow, Mr Putin said a war without UN approval "would be fraught with the gravest consequences, will result in casualties and destabilise the international situation in general ... We stand for resolving the problem exclusively through peaceful means. Any other option would be a mistake." --

Defense needs to save this for later when they move on Chechnya.

Posted by Anonymous 2003-03-18 12:20:41|| 2003-03-18 12:20:41|| Front Page Top

#11 Mr Chretien and his Liberal buddies sold their souls to the United Nations fifty years ago. Since then Canada has become the first country in the world to unilaterally disarm. So not supporting this war just hides this dirty little secret.

Course in the same time period they abdicated total economic sovreignty to the United States. You can see where this juxtaposition might lead? Trust me, the Chretien braintrust never will.

Posted by john 2003-03-18 20:16:14|| 2003-03-18 20:16:14|| Front Page Top

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