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2003-03-09 Iraq

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Posted by Bulldog 2003-03-09 09:07 am|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Yes, please tell me anyone...how France, China and Russia are now the moral giants in deciding these issues of war with Iraq. To think that people in America and Great Britain, want these pillars of freedom and tolerance, to decide if we have the right to protect ourselves...obscene I say!

Brien

Posted by Brien 2003-03-09 07:15:04|| 2003-03-09 07:15:04|| Front Page Top

#2 Remember that the UK television media views the UN as some sort of saintly body: Kofi Anand is usually depicted as if he already had wings and a halo.

If nobody points out the facts about the UN, then these are the results you get.

Posted by A 2003-03-09 07:50:19|| 2003-03-09 07:50:19|| Front Page Top

#3 We got very lucky with Blair. As the above article indicates, he's not your typical Labourite.

Posted by Patrick Phillips 2003-03-09 08:13:05|| 2003-03-09 08:13:05|| Front Page Top

#4 Lord Archer wants Blair 'to accept defeat to stop history remembering him "as the person who went to war unlawfully"'.

Has His Lordship given any thought to how history will remember Blair- and all of Britain as well- if they back out now?

I suspect Blair would much, MUCH rather be remembered as the PM who took Britain to war without France's permission, than be remembered as "The Cowardly Lion."

Britain's men in uniform have the right stuff; does its citizenry?

Posted by Dave D. 2003-03-09 08:17:44|| 2003-03-09 08:17:44|| Front Page Top

#5 If I was Blair, and I stood the chance of being buried someday with "Took Britain to War without France's Permission" as my epitaph, I'd jump at it.

Posted by Fred 2003-03-09 10:07:54|| 2003-03-09 10:07:54|| Front Page Top

#6 Dave, "Britain's men in uniform have the right stuff; does its citizenry?" - some of us do, but too few. Things are moving faster at the moment than most people can keep up with, unfortunately, at least that's what I tell myself. The fact that 54% support conflict, albeit only with the UN's blesing shows that they have fighting spirit, but their uncritical belief in the UN needs readjustment. A speedy, decsive war followed by visible evidence of Saddam's crimes and an appreciative population would save Blair's neck. But this March 17th deadline cannot be extended.

Fred - Tony will be feted for that for sure one day, but I wonder how his own reality-challenged party will look at it. It's the best France-related epitaph a PM could have since Wellington's...

Posted by Bulldog 2003-03-09 10:21:01|| 2003-03-09 10:21:01|| Front Page Top

#7 When Wellington was in Portugal, the opposition and the British public called for his head on a regular basis. Is this a British tradition?

Posted by Fred 2003-03-09 10:51:17|| 2003-03-09 10:51:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Of course, we love our traditions. But for variety, this time the opposition are supportive, and his side are muttering mutiny. But then Wellington didn't become (a Tory) PM till 1828, 13 years after Waterloo.

Churchill - booted after the war, but returned to office next time round when the electorate had their first taste of Labour.

Maggie - at her popularity prime when the Argies nabbed the Falklands. Not ejected for another nine years.

The difference this time is that Tony's doing the traditionally Tory leader's role but acting as the head of a confused, governing, Labour beast...

Posted by Bulldog 2003-03-09 11:15:26|| 2003-03-09 11:15:26|| Front Page Top

#9 The British Labour Party is a motley crew of communists, rigid trade union leaders, and animal rights weirdos. Until Tony Blair dragged them kicking and screaming into the 20th century, they were just another bunch of hooligans at a soccer game. If Tony goes, they disintergrate. Sort of like the Dems without Clinton.

Every vote on Iraq in Parliament he has won with a super majority. He does not have to call an election until 2006. A number of his party are planning to resign to join what, the World Workers Party?

As long as the Tories stand behind Blair, he should survive. When was the last time an Englishman surrendered to a Frenchman?

Posted by john 2003-03-09 13:47:18|| 2003-03-09 13:47:18|| Front Page Top

#10 Guess everyone knows where the V-sign originated.... Maybe Straw did a bit of that under the table at the UNSC session.

True, the Labour party would wtill be languishing as unelectables without Blair, but do they realise that? Blair's tugged the party to the middle ground (the Lib Dems are now the most left wing of the three main parties), and has wrenched it away from its natural roots in doing so. He's drifting rightwards, but there has to be a whiplash effect, and it could be violent. Time will tell...

Posted by Bulldog 2003-03-09 14:06:22|| 2003-03-09 14:06:22|| Front Page Top

#11 God Bless England! From an admiring American...

Posted by R. McLeod 2003-03-09 15:17:33|| 2003-03-09 15:17:33|| Front Page Top

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