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2005-12-30 Home Front: Politix

Dems cranking up the slime machine already

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Posted by Oldspook 2005-12-30 12:34|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Funny thing is, they won't find jack squat on Romney.

Posted by Raj 2005-12-30 13:22|| 2005-12-30 13:22|| Front Page Top

#2 raj - They don't have to FIND it, they can just make it up.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2005-12-30 13:54|| 2005-12-30 13:54|| Front Page Top

#3 IIRC Howie "Yearrrgggghhh" Dean sealed his Governor's office records for 10 yrs...

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-30 13:57|| 2005-12-30 13:57|| Front Page Top

#4 Anyone that thinks the other parties and individual candidates and campaigns aren't doing this as well is devoid of a basic understanding of modern political campaigning.

They'd be callously irresponsible amateurs if they didn't do opposition research.

This is standard operating procedure for ALL political parties and candidates.

The R's are probably just not so stupid as to have a paid staff member requesting this information.

EP

Posted by Elvis 2005-12-30 14:04|| 2005-12-30 14:04|| Front Page Top

#5 no resolution to Schumer's aides fraudulently getting the private credit reports of Michael Steele, is there?

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-30 14:13|| 2005-12-30 14:13|| Front Page Top

#6 That gibes with what I found on Google. Daly was working as a volunteer at < href='http://www.ihclt.org/'>http://www.ihclt.org/ which is based in North Carolina

Posted by badanov 2005-12-30 14:24|| http://www.freefirezone.org/cgi-bin/index.pl]">[http://www.freefirezone.org/cgi-bin/index.pl] 2005-12-30 14:24|| Front Page Top

#7 It's irritating when public officials on either side "seal" their records. Kinda makes folks think the worst, why else would they do it other than to hide potentially bad stuff.
Everyone seems to have some dirty laundry somewhere, better to let it hang out and defend your actions and move on than to hide it.

Posted by Jan 2005-12-30 14:25|| 2005-12-30 14:25|| Front Page Top

#8 I always get a chuckle out of spin articles like these. Maybe people in the world think they're news, but I'm not so optimistic about the world.

I understand that most people want to believe that their preferred candidate or party plays fair, but quite honestly if you really believe that, you're fooling yourself.

Anyone that thinks the other parties and individual candidates and campaigns aren't doing this as well is devoid of a basic understanding of political campaigning or just naive.

They'd be callously irresponsible amateurs if they didn't do opposition research.

This is standard operating procedure for ALL political parties and candidates as well as politically oriented think tanks.

Political campaigning is sadly not about being right or about being the best man for the job. It's about getting the most votes and winning. That being so, the gloves are off in campaigns and very little is considered out of bounds.

This isn't new either, this shit has been going on since electoral politics debuted. You should read some of the historical campaign literature about Andy Jackson calling his wife a whore and so on. That's just the tip of the iceberg. We all may think it's slimy, but the truth is, that it is effective.

These days with Mccain/Feingold or BCRA as it is affectionately known, the responsibility for such attacks had simply been shifted to third party committees like PACs and 527s.

While these changes to campaign finance law may seem like reforms,these changes were extremely beneficial for the individual politicians because now they dont have to actually put the slime out, they can just benefit from it with no strings attached. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth(well known anti Kerry organization) and an organization called Bring Ohio Back( a Hollywood funded Anti Bush group)are good examples of these third party groups used as proxy campaign arms, and you bet your ass both major parties and independent groups have scores of such groups.

Whether or not you agree with this is another matter, but to believe that campaigns are fair is equivalent to believing that the tooth fairy is going to visit you when its time for dentures.

The R's are probably just not so stupid as to have a paid staff member requesting this information.So if you want to bash something, bash the idiocy of the D's for making this a transparent process.For that was truly the stupid move. Not the aforementioned assumption that this is not what all politicians do.

EP

Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-12-30 14:32|| 2005-12-30 14:32|| Front Page Top

#9 please disregard my first post on this matter as it was incomplete and a bit harsher than I intended.

EP

Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-12-30 14:33|| 2005-12-30 14:33|| Front Page Top

#10 If we can't find it, we'll fabricate it.

"Fake but Accurate" Dan.

Posted by Dan Rather 2005-12-30 17:08|| 2005-12-30 17:08|| Front Page Top

#11 Fake But Accurate is a solid liberal journalistic standard (as most recently seen in a smearing of a republican governor over stat handling of wolves), especially when its handed to the press by liberals. Things liek that go with their predispositions to dislike conservatives, and their innate laziness at fact checking things, especially when they come from "trusted sources" (i.e. people with the same prejudices and biases they hold).

Posted by OldSpook 2005-12-30 17:11|| 2005-12-30 17:11|| Front Page Top

#12
So I guess Dean, Pelosi, and Reid still haven't found that message yet.

What Would Stalin Do

Posted by macofromoc 2005-12-30 20:44|| 2005-12-30 20:44|| Front Page Top

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