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2004-12-30 Home Front: Politix
Group holds fast to Kerry cause with Beacon Hill vigil
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Posted by tipper 2004-12-30 08:35|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 ''Who knows? Maybe we'll overturn the election," said Sheila Parks, a vigil organizer.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm....no.
Leave it to the Globe to play up 8 or 10 quacks as a legitimate protest movement. The unending lefty nightmare continues.
Posted by tu3031 2004-12-30 9:00:12 AM||   2004-12-30 9:00:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Parks, who years ago legally changed her surname to that of the famed civil rights activist Rosa Parks
'Nuff said. Some folks have way too much time on their hands. How about channeling that into something useful, huh?
Posted by Spot  2004-12-30 9:15:24 AM||   2004-12-30 9:15:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 "Good evening, I'm Marlin Perkins. They once roamed the Great Plains in vast numbers, but no more. Now nearly extinct, the last few survivors of the species are kept in a small nature preserve in Boston. Tonight on Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom, Jim and I will take a rare look at a dying breed, the Kerry's Moonbat."
Posted by Mike  2004-12-30 9:34:16 AM||   2004-12-30 9:34:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Heh heh - this has gotta be like fingernails on the chalkboard for JFnK and Terayyyza - every time they look out the window or hear the chanting....Merry Christmas to all Boston Brahmins!
Posted by Frank G  2004-12-30 9:57:30 AM||   2004-12-30 9:57:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Crickey! Jim's got one! Jim will now painlessly tag this interesting creature in the ear. Hummmm... looks like it's been tagged previously? I said EAR! ear! Jim, Jim painlessly dammit! They're small children watching, Dang! That's gotta hurt.

Oh well, such is life in Wilde Kingdom of the inner harbour.
Posted by Marlin 2004-12-30 10:20:08 AM||   2004-12-30 10:20:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 You mean Hanoi John actually had a "cause". That traitorous back stabbing buddy fucker ought to now be tried for treason. What a worthless piece of odiferous crap selling himslef as a patriot. he makes me puke everytime I hear his name. Good fuckin riddance Hanoi john, and a word of advice, don't try to run again. The Swift Vets, others and me are keeping an eye on you.
Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-12-30 10:42:11 AM||   2004-12-30 10:42:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#7  every time they look out the window or hear the chanting

It get's even better, John and Terayyza were not even in Boston, they're vacationing at one of her other homes.
Posted by Steve  2004-12-30 11:39:00 AM||   2004-12-30 11:39:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 # 7 Ditto- LOL for the Kerrys. I knew in November
that he would not win the race- there is too much going on in the country to switch presidents.

I know there will not be a recount in Ohio as well. Remember the ballot's that were NOT counted in Florida year's ago - Well the same thing will happen again- no recount will be granted. LOL if J.K. decides to run again.

Andrea
Posted by ANdrea  2004-12-30 12:06:42 PM||   2004-12-30 12:06:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Won't you lose your democratic decoder ring for posting that?
Posted by badanov  2004-12-30 12:16:24 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org]  2004-12-30 12:16:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 My wife and I saw "Jane Eyre" last night and I couldn't help think of Kerry as Mr Rochester-- a beaten, haunted man who put away his mad first wife (as Kerry did), who nearly married a golddigger (as Kerry did), and whose character is marked by arrogance, fecklessness, and a burning sense of betrayal owing to his catastrophic youth.

Good riddance. God forbid we see more such "complex" and "interesting" candidates brimming with psychological issues. Can we for once have a reasonably normal set of candidates who made their way in the world without accumulating all sorts of emotional baggage or favors from daddy?
Posted by lex 2004-12-30 12:33:28 PM||   2004-12-30 12:33:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 "favors from daddy"

If you're referring to President Bush, then that is a cheap shot with nothing I can see here to justify it or back it up. How has he "used" Daddy - we voted for him. We didn't have to, Daddy or no. Has he done a bad job as President? Is he anything like Daddy? Hasn't he discarded Daddy's foreign policies like a bad habit? He just got re-elected with the first majority in a long time... sounds like the country wants him - certainly more than the alternative... which brings us back on-topic. The unhinged fool is Skeery. Why bash Bush? Pfeh.
Posted by .com 2004-12-30 12:45:07 PM||   2004-12-30 12:45:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Bush has done a decent job overall, and I especially admire how he cast off his father's advisers and made his own decisions re Iraq. The old man's a cautious realpolitiker; W's truly in favor of promoting democracy. Bravo for that.

But let's be honest: like JFK, or Hillary, or any of dozens of children of US politicians these days, W never would have ascended to the highest ranks of the Republican Party if his father had not paved the way for him.

I'd like to see less nepotism in our politics-- it's a systemic problem, whether you're talking about Daleys in Chicago or Kennedys or Bushes or whoever. And fewer gazillionaires in Congress, too. Whatever happened to the self-made man?
Posted by lex 2004-12-30 12:56:53 PM||   2004-12-30 12:56:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 "Whatever happened to the self-made man?"

Well... He had big ears and a funny accent. But I voted for him anyway, heh. ;-)
Posted by .com 2004-12-30 1:09:52 PM||   2004-12-30 1:09:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 ?? Ahnold?
Posted by lex 2004-12-30 3:18:03 PM||   2004-12-30 3:18:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 me, dammit!
Posted by Ross Perot  2004-12-30 3:23:41 PM||   2004-12-30 3:23:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 C'mon lex! Politics is like any other marketing endeavor -- name recognition is the first driver of choice. So anyone with an already familiar name has an advantage, something that American politicians have used for quite some time.... As I recall, John Quincy Adams (U.S. Pres. #6) was the son of John Adams (Pres. #2), FDR was Teddy's cousin. Not to mention the Vice Presidents who ran on the tails of their bosses (Bush, Sr., f'r instance). A smart politician uses everything serendipity has given him, and always has.

Even so, name recognition doesn't trump quality, or JFK would be in the White House now -- his name after all has been news since the Viet Nam war, and his cousin ruled in Camelot.
Posted by  trailing wife 2004-12-30 3:24:19 PM||   2004-12-30 3:24:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Incidentally, am I the only person to have made note of the fact that in the chatspeaking world of my peers, JK stands for 'just kidding'? It seems to be the man's excuse every time he is caught out with a complete debasement of the truth.
Posted by trailing daughter of the trailing wife 2004-12-30 3:26:46 PM||   2004-12-30 3:26:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Damn! We've been figured out!

Just kidding JK, tdottw, heh. ;-)
Posted by .com 2004-12-30 3:31:15 PM||   2004-12-30 3:31:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 trailing wife: I disagree. The trend toward nepotism is disturbing because it coincides with, and is part of, a larger trend toward non-competitive electoral districts. Congressional offices and mayoral offices are increasingly like fiefdoms passed down from father to son (or daughter) or from husband to wife. The results are 1)it's harder and harder for anyone outside the party (and family) establishment to break in; 2) we have more and more dinosaurs hanging on and suffocating innovation and dynamism (see Hillary effect); and 3) as "branding" becomes all-powerful, money becomes seen as still more important, which distorts our politics further.

How about we get back to candidates who are neither gazillionaires nor children of politicians? Y'know, people who've actually worked a wage labor job or paid their own way through college or served in the military or have done so themselves?
Posted by lex 2004-12-30 3:41:49 PM||   2004-12-30 3:41:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 I think you've hung your hat on a myth, lex. Its always been the case that politicians are mainly from the leisure class, because they are the ones who can afford not to work -- look at the founding fathers, or the Antibellum period. Or the Kennedy and Rockefeller dynasties. But the current generation of Kennedys doesn't seem to be getting far on the basis of their name, nor the Rockefellers, either.

With regard to working man policos, McCain is a perfect example. Dr. Whatsisname, who is in the Reserves, too. Not to mention the Machine politicians who are rightfully ending their careers in prison.

In fact, the argument could be made that the American political world is opening up, as the Party Machines break down, and many of the old names have lost their glamour. Who will replace Teddy Kennedy, when he finally realizes he's been brain dead for decades? I'll bet it won't be a member of his immediate clan. And, do you really think Massachussetts voters will continue to re-elect their now-proven loser of a junior senator?

We have a new generation of young men and women who have been tempered by war. I don't think they will have much patience with unsuitable legacy politicians. Then, too, the youngsters know the power of the Internet. I am confident they will do us proud.
Posted by trailing wife 2004-12-30 4:42:04 PM||   2004-12-30 4:42:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Its always been the case that politicians are mainly from the leisure class,

Nonsense. Think Truman, Eisenhower, Johnson, Nixon, Ford Carter Reagan Clinton. None of them a gazillionaire or even very wealthy. None of them a politician's kid. That's EIGHT of the last ten pre-2000 politicians!

Hell, when I was a kid my party was led by working class heroes like Tip O'Neill and Daniel Pat Moynihan. That, not Kennedy Corzine Boxer Kerry Heinz Frist Rockefeller gazillionaires and Pelosi-the-society-lady, was the norm. Men and women distinguished by their smarts and political skills and insight into the problems and aspirations of the vast working and middle classes. You didn't need to make a $60 million fortune on Wall Street or inherit a family business worth billions or marry an investment banker or a rich man's widow in order to join the club; you got in by winning an election, and it used to be that elections were won through superior organization, ward by ward, street by street.

We didn't have this ridiculous situation where the average net worth of a US Senator is in the tens of millions of dollars, ie, probably 400x or 500x that of their constituents.
Posted by lex 2004-12-30 4:56:51 PM||   2004-12-30 4:56:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 It's no wonder that these jokers are so clueless about issues that are clobbering ordinary people across this country, from illegal immigration to health insurance to decent schools for their kids. What the f*** would a Sen. Jon GoldenSlacks or Nancy Pelosi know about these issues? Illegals are nannies, not rivals who undercut honest immigrants' and other workingmen's wages. Health insurance? Not my problem. Public schools? They're fine-- my kids go to $15,000 per year private schools but the NEA folks tell me that their schools' performance is improving every year, and that's good enough for the little people. Screw these idiots.
Posted by lex 2004-12-30 5:01:08 PM||   2004-12-30 5:01:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 "Mainly", lex, "mainly". My parents voted Democrat Rockefellers into the NY governorship and Congress while you got to choose Tip O'Neil and Moynihan up there in Massachussetts.

But Congresscritters no longer get elected to the White House, and fancy names never guaranteed the ability to govern that is so necessary to actually running a state. Lessee: Truman was a jumped up VP, Eisenhower a WWII general, Johnson (?), Nixon (?), Ford another jumped up VP, Carter a State governor, Reagan and Clinton ditto. Its that name recognition thingy. Works for me!
Posted by trailng daughter of the trailing wife 2004-12-30 5:16:01 PM||   2004-12-30 5:16:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 It really undercuts "brilliant" commentary when my daughter's name accidentally ends up at the bottom, darn it!
Posted by trailing wife 2004-12-30 5:18:03 PM||   2004-12-30 5:18:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 First thought on seeing the pic at the link:
"Squirt guns"
Posted by mojo  2004-12-30 5:18:09 PM||   2004-12-30 5:18:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 tw, get real. The eight of ten presidents in 1945-2000 I cited were all self-made men, most of them brilliant politicians, many of them hugely successful in private life as well. They didn't need coattails or daddy's help. In fact, three of them grew up in broken homes (Reagan, Johnson, Clinton) with deadbeat or drunk or abusive fathers.

Now let's look at the major candidates since 1996:

Democrats:
-- Al Gore Jr., St Albans-educated son of Senator Albert Gore
-- John Kerry, Swiss and Andover-educated son of US diplomat
-- Hillary Clinton (in 2008), wife of president

Republicans:
-- George W Bush, baseball team owner and son of president
-- John McCain, son of an admiral
-- Bill Frist, heir to a $$$billion+ family business
Posted by lex 2004-12-30 5:41:36 PM||   2004-12-30 5:41:36 PM|| Front Page Top

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