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Posted by growler 2003-12-16 12:28:56 PM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Meh. Its a bit underhanded to stack the deck like that.

Let his supporters make the decision, don't muck with the democratic process.
Posted by RussSchultz 2003-12-16 12:42:46 PM||   2003-12-16 12:42:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Now, don't I feel good about myself? Sure do.

Why I think everyone should visit Mr. Nader's site.
Posted by Dragon Fly  2003-12-16 12:48:34 PM||   2003-12-16 12:48:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 "underhanded to stack the deck like that." Russ, I bet you right now that if the Dems had someone to siphon off votes from Bush they would give him FULL funding. As for 'muck' look no further than this years crop of Demoncrat candidates. 'Muck' barely scratches the surface. I personnally am voting for Al Sharpton in our 'open' election. I was going to go for Kusinich but he is too far right. Yes this is 'Democracy' as we know it!
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2003-12-16 12:48:34 PM||   2003-12-16 12:48:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Its a bit underhanded to stack the deck like that.

Not if you are being honest. He asks questions, you answer them. How is that stacking the deck?
Posted by Dragon Fly  2003-12-16 12:50:59 PM||   2003-12-16 12:50:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Stack the deck?

I heard about the site from a way-left-leaning associate, who was urging people to go there and tell Ralph NOT to run.
Posted by growler 2003-12-16 12:51:26 PM||   2003-12-16 12:51:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Russ - What do you think Ross Perot did in 1992 and in 1996? The Dims were very happy that he was in the race.
Posted by Denny 2003-12-16 12:54:18 PM|| [http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com]  2003-12-16 12:54:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't think Nader will be much of a player this time around. Dean is very close to Nader in enough of his positions that the looney left will feel represented, and the Dems realize Nader was a big factor in Bush's win.

Nader would be better off becoming Senator for Washington State where he still has a lot of clout.
Posted by ruprecht 2003-12-16 1:12:47 PM||   2003-12-16 1:12:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Maybe. But consider that as the days pass, Dean will try to reinvent himself as a "centrist." If he does that, he could lose support from the far left if they had Nader as an option.
Posted by growler 2003-12-16 1:26:43 PM||   2003-12-16 1:26:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 It's not stacking the deck... I may in fact support Ralph Nader this year, if he convinces me that he would be a better President*. So I'll ask him to run...

*I'm *really, really, really* not expecting this to be the case, though.
Posted by snellenr  2003-12-16 1:39:20 PM||   2003-12-16 1:39:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Meh, the dems cheered on Perot plenty when they were trying to split the GOP vote. I'll send some $$$ to Ralph, absolutely. Let the pinks and the reds tear eachother to pieces, it's what they want.
Posted by 4thInfVet 2003-12-16 1:47:42 PM||   2003-12-16 1:47:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 ruprecht, Please have some pity on Washington State. After all we have to live with Patty Murray.
Posted by CrazyFool  2003-12-16 1:56:58 PM||   2003-12-16 1:56:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I know what it did to Bush I's re-election chances, and to the Gore's election chances, and thats exactly why its not right to do it now.

Its the same thing Gray Davis' supporters did to win the last election (stuffed the primary ballot so a right wing candidate would be the republican choice to go against him, instead of the more centrist choice that would have beat him)

To me, that just goes against the ideals of democracy (or representative democracy)
Posted by RussSchultz 2003-12-16 2:25:34 PM||   2003-12-16 2:25:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 I took the survey. Hell, I think he should run. In all honesty, I didn't vote for Bush when he ran for governor when I lived in Tejas, and I didn't vote for him in 2000...I voted libertarian. I'll certainly vote for GWB next year, though. That being said, Nadir should be on the ballot just to get people more used to the idea of third parties being a viable option...

Steve
Posted by skh 2003-12-16 2:54:09 PM||   2003-12-16 2:54:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 CrazyFool, I once lived in Spokane. I helped vote the Speaker of the House out of his job. I only mention Washington because Nader scored real well there and its probably the only place he has a chance.

On the other hand, if he goes for Pres again he will probably become so associated with the Green party that the party will dissolve into confusion (like the Reform party did when Perot finally stepped back). A third party should work from the bottom up, not go for the Presidency.
Posted by ruprecht 2003-12-16 3:56:09 PM||   2003-12-16 3:56:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Yeah... did the survey too.... but accidently got trapped into the may volunteer section. Frankly, I got to the Do You Have A Reliable Car Question and started having an attack of the oh shit are these people sincere or what glooms.
Posted by Shipman 2003-12-16 6:51:28 PM||   2003-12-16 6:51:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Do you have a reliable car?

Of course. A Chevy Corvair.

Miss that one. Great for winter driving
Posted by Michael  2003-12-16 7:20:00 PM||   2003-12-16 7:20:00 PM|| Front Page Top

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