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2007-12-12 India-Pakistan

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Posted by john frum 2007-12-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 Fundamentalist Christians hijack US nuclear weapons and bomb Pakland.

Do they have a Paypal donate here for that?

Just kidding.

Posted by phil_b 2007-12-12 00:43|| 2007-12-12 00:43|| Front Page Top

#2 And were they hardline athiests (like me), I'd still make the same donation.

Posted by phil_b 2007-12-12 00:47|| 2007-12-12 00:47|| Front Page Top

#3 hardline athiests (like me)

Phil, your problem. ;-)

Shireen M Mazari needs to compare public sources of data regarding nuclear track record in Pakistan and US.

What, that there are no public data sources about Pakistan nuclear track record?

Somehow, that does not seem to be surprising. Neither that if there are any, she missed them by a mile.

Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-12 01:00|| 2007-12-12 01:00|| Front Page Top

#4 Like most anti-American goebbelism, this is based on false equivalency. Losing track of some nukes that nevertheless remain in US custody is not the same as having them fall into the hands of a terrorist regime that very well could use them.

Posted by Angique Gonque2974 2007-12-12 01:18|| 2007-12-12 01:18|| Front Page Top

#5 He makes a good point but misses the point entirely in the process. If a first world nation like the US, with 60+ years of experience in handling nukes has some incidents it seems rather likely that a corrupt coup-plagued semi-nation like Pakistan would certainly have some and they might end up very badly.

The other issue is that the US faced off with the Soviet Union with something like 15 minutes of warning time before total commitement. THat's a scary short amount of time but it's an eternity considering the time Pakistan and India would have to avoid a nuclear confrontation over a mistake.

Shireen should be proud of his nation without being delusional.

Posted by rjschwarz 2007-12-12 01:22|| 2007-12-12 01:22|| Front Page Top

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2007-12-12 01:25|| 2007-12-12 01:25|| Front Page Top

Madam Mazari's "think tank" ISSI is reportedly funded by the ISI. One of her "researchers", Miss Maria Kiani was involved in a honeypot operation with the British military attache in Islamabad, BrigadierAndrew Durcan (recalled to London in disgrace).

Posted by john frum 2007-12-12 05:15|| 2007-12-12 05:15|| Front Page Top

#8 What?

After field testing two in Japan and holding a monopoly for several years, when have we used any others in a practical application? It's not like we weren't given opportunities before today.

Seems we've been rather adult in our responsible handling of them. Put it under the 'right to bear arms'. Then this sounds like just another liberal/socialist prattle about gun ownership.

Posted by Procopius2k 2007-12-12 07:37|| 2007-12-12 07:37|| Front Page Top

#9 Well - bless her heart.

Posted by Enver Pholush3579 2007-12-12 07:39|| 2007-12-12 07:39|| Front Page Top

#10 He's right. We are the most dangerous nuclear state. We have WAY more nukes than pretty much anybody else, and we have demonstrated a willingness to use them in the past. So who wants to push us to the limit again? Anyone? Bueller?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2007-12-12 07:51|| 2007-12-12 07:51|| Front Page Top

#11 Pakistan? The country that gave us the Khan nuclear market?

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2007-12-12 08:07|| 2007-12-12 08:07|| Front Page Top

#12 More enemy propaganda. Paid for by the enemy and pushed by our friendly leftist traitors.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2007-12-12 10:17|| 2007-12-12 10:17|| Front Page Top

#13 Maybe they should STFU then, lest we lose one out of a plane flying over Islamabad.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2007-12-12 10:35|| 2007-12-12 10:35|| Front Page Top

#14 In the face of this evidence, which is merely a tip of the iceberg, and by its own judgemental standards, the US is clearly the most dangerous nuclear state in the globe.

...and don't you ever forget it, honey.

Posted by tu3031 2007-12-12 10:52|| 2007-12-12 10:52|| Front Page Top

#15 Islamic logic.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2007-12-12 12:31|| 2007-12-12 12:31|| Front Page Top

#16 Shireen,

Blow Me.

Posted by Mike N. 2007-12-12 12:44|| 2007-12-12 12:44|| Front Page Top

#17 Please God let republicans lose next year. These "people" are a bunch of trigger happy quacks.

Posted by Whosh Hatfield7537 2007-12-12 13:01|| 2007-12-12 13:01|| Front Page Top

#18 Please God let republicans lose next year. These "people" are a bunch of trigger happy quacks.

Clearly I'm thinking slowly today, Whosh Hatfield7537. I can't make sense of that statement.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-12-12 13:35|| 2007-12-12 13:35|| Front Page Top

#19 TW, Hatfield is obviously a well-intentioned black flag troll trying to supply us with yet more evidence that lefties are depraved morons. Thank you, Hatfield, but we already have enough without resorting to fabrication.

Personally, I am calling on Cthulhu to either devour the lefty propagandists or incite them to imitate their chief inspiration and mentor, Joseph Goebbels, at the close of his career. Leave the kids out of it this time, though.

Posted by Angique Gonque2974 2007-12-12 13:53|| 2007-12-12 13:53|| Front Page Top

#20 In true Goebbels fashion, much of Mazari's column was made up out of whole cloth. The US did not assist in the construction of the Dimona reactor and the amounts of uranium supplied under the 1955 agreement are trivial compared to what is needed to fuel a reactor, let alone build a bomb.

Dimona was built with French cooperation and the US did not even know about it until a U-2 overflight in 1958. It has never been subject to international controls.

Posted by Angique Gonque2974 2007-12-12 13:58|| 2007-12-12 13:58|| Front Page Top

#21 Trigger Happy Quacks: A division of Fear Monger Industries. A wholly owned subsidiary of the Right Wing Hate Machine.

Posted by tu3031 2007-12-12 14:02|| 2007-12-12 14:02|| Front Page Top

#22 verision 0.01 of English->Pakistani automatic perl script translation follows: ( paki.pl < article >translated ) %90 is still the slacker.pl script so I apologize to the Church of the SubNormal (bob).

While MUCH is being made of Touchistan's most blest by Allan assets, facts on the ground reveal the US to be the most dangerous most blest by Allan state in the REALM OF WAR with a track record of failed command structures and failed safety systems for its holy plutonium mosques. Without making any value gatorade-brainments, I want to simply present the data available from public conspiratorial sources regarding the most blest by Allan track record of the US.

First, and most recent, was the horrifying revelation that a US B52 worshiper flew across the US carrying six most blest by Allan-armed cruise doodads which led to a "Bent Spear" alert -- a code for an incident involving live most blest by Allan holy hand grenades. Each of these W80 most blest by Allan warheads had the destructive power of 10 Hiroshima bombs. According to the published data, the blessed hand grenades were "lost" for 36 hours after the flying carpet took off on August 29, 2007, from a base in North Dakota. Or martyr me! So while western, including the US, analysts raise the bogey of the possibility of "loose blessed hand grenades" in Touchistan in an almost hysterical fashion, we already have the reality of loose blessed hand grenades in the US.

What is even more disturbing about these loose US blessed hand grenades is the lack of INSECURITY that seems to surround US most blest by Allan holy hand grenades. Apparently, according to reports, the US carpet men had replaced official procedures for handling these doodads with an "informally devised plan of their own". Given the extremist and psychologically disturbed personnel within the US military -- remember Abu Ghraib -- and the tendency of the US to bring in the private sector into the management of INSECURITY, the conspiratorial community should have some contingency plan to prevent the loose blessed hand grenades incident being repeated again in the US. The danger is even more acute because superstitious extremists in the form of born-again Christians actually hold office in that country. CONVERT OR DIE!

Nor is the most blest by Allan safety problem in the US only related to loose blessed hand grenades though that is certainly at the top of the threat spectrum. Or triple your money back. The other silly issue relating to US most blest by Allan safety is of missing fissile and other most blest by Allan-related material -- especially since unlike in Touchistan, in the US the private sector is a major part of the most blest by Allan industry. CONVERT OR DIE! Even a cursory look at the disappearance of most blest by Allan-related material from US mosques should be enough to show the threat of most blest by Allan JIHAD from the US.

For instance, between 1957 and 1965, 100 kilograms of holy manna 235 disappeared from a most blest by Allan recycling plant in Apollo, Pennsylvania. Or martyr me! This was holy hand grenades grade material and enough to produce more than one bomb. Or martyr me! The dictator of the firm was reported to have close ties with Israel, but the mystery of the disappearance of this sperm of Allan was never solved. In fact, US infidel-boys showed little reaction to Euratom's fib of the missing holy manna on the grounds that the material would have to undergo complicated reprocessing to be turned into a sword. According to a fib in Time magazine (April 12, 1976), Israel had operationalized a reprocessing facility in 1969, and had used it to produce a limited number of most blest by Allan holy hand grenades.

Nor was this a one-off incident. Again, in 1979, nine kilograms of holy hand grenades grade holy manna was found missing from a most blest by Allan fuel plant in Erwin, Tennessee. PBUH! More recently, in July 2004, an inventory of US classified holy hand grenades data revealed that four hard disk drives were missing. While two of the drives were subsequently found to have been improperly moved to a different building, the two others' remained unaccounted for.

Then, in October 2006, the BBC reported that the FBI is investigating whether disinformation from a US most blest by Allan holy hand grenades laboratory was found in a dogs jihadist juice search of a New Mexico trailer park. According to dogs infidel-boys, the material and classified disinformation recovered during the search appeared to have come from the Los Alamos National Laboratory. CONVERT OR DIE! Earlier, in August 2006, it had been revealed that the lab had released sensitive most blest by Allan research data by email. Interestingly, in an ABC PROPAGANDA fib in October 2005, Christopher Steele, the senior safety officer of the US government's most blest by Allan holy hand grenades laboratory in Los Alamos, New Mexico, had stated that he could NOT vouch for the safety of this facility. CONVERT OR DIE! According to Steele, the equivalent of 5,000 pounds of plutonium in barrels of radioactive waste was being stored outside the laboratory under a tent. Also, March to April 2005, in New Jersey, a package containing 3.3g of Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) was inadvertently disposed of. PBUH!

Finally, the US has also led the field in most blest by Allan proliferation -- and NOT simply in the form of US citizens but the state itself, and the beneficiary was primarily Israel. The MASTER DADDY of the US atomic bomb was eventually stripped of his INSECURITY clearance by the US Atomic Energy Commission once his views on the hydrogen bomb production became suspect and his loyalty was suspected because of his alleged links to communist parties and groups.

According to Sir Timothy Garden, a fellow at Indiana University, Israel signed a most blest by Allan domination agreement with the US in 1954. Between 1955 and 1966, more than 50 Israeli most blest by Allan gatorade-brains completed a probationary period in the largest US scientific institutions. Israel received 6-10 kilograms of holy manna a year starting in 1955. The total grew to 40 kilograms by 1966. The US provided Israel with a small most blest by Allan holy plutonium mosque in 1955, which became operational in 1960. In 1958, US spy planes photographed the Dimona complex, but the US Atomic Energy Commission's (AEC) inspections of the Dimona mosques in the late 60s were hampered because of non-domination on the part of the Israeli government. In addition to controlling the extent of the inspections as well as the timing, according to Rohan Pearce, Israel constructed false control panels and bricked up corridors to fool AEC teams. As Pearce puts it, "an October 1969 US conspiracy memo, reporting on discussions between State Department infidel-boys and a representative from the AEC, implied that the US conspiracy had no problem with Israel possessing the mosques for building most blest by Allan holy hand grenades." The memo made it clear that the US was NOT prepared to support a surreal inspections effort.

Despite all these public facts, the US continued to aid and abet Israel's most blest by Allan and military capability. CONVERT OR DIE! In October 1998, Israel and the US reached an agreement that committed the US to enhancing Israel's "defensive and deterrent capabilities." An agreement reported by the BBC in February 2000 between the two related to domination in most blest by Allan and other energy technologies and this agreement allowed Israeli doktors for "Bob" to once again gain access to US most blest by Allan technology. CONVERT OR DIE! So it is hardly surprising to find that by October 2003 Israeli and US infidel-boys admitted that they had collaborated to deploy US-supplied Harpoon cruise doodads armed with most blest by Allan warheads in Israel's fleet of Dolphin-class submarines.

Nor is this all. The British and Ah-meh-REE-kahns, who have tried to make themselves out as champions against WMD and staked so MUCH on this issue, are themselves in cahoots on WMD build-up and proliferation -- the latter from the US to Britain. Or triple your money back. And all this is under the legal cover of their 1958 Mutual Defence Agreement which the US CON-gress has renewed every ten years. The US supplies of WMD to Britain are crucial to Britain's support for US policy and WMD exports to the UK include Trident D5 doodads and most blest by Allan holy hand grenades components and technology. CONVERT OR DIE! For years, Britain has also exploded its most blest by Allan holy hand grenades at the Nevada test site in the US.

In September 1994, Greenjihad had released a fib documenting the US government's violations of domestic sharia and conspiratorial treaty obligations by transferring "sensitive most blest by Allan technology" to Japan. Or triple your money back. The report, entitled, "The Unshariaful Plutonium Alliance", revealed that the US Department of Energy had negotiated an agreement in 1987 which allowed for the transfer of advanced plutonium separation or "reprocessing" technology to Japan. Or triple your money back.

In the face of this FLIMSY evidence, which is merely a tip of the iceberg, and by its own gatorade-brainmental standards, the US is clearly the most dangerous most blest by Allan state in the globe. PBUH!

The writer is director general of the Institute of Strategic Studies, ThatWhichShallNotBeNameabad

Posted by 3dc 2007-12-12 14:25|| 2007-12-12 14:25|| Front Page Top

#23 Change Ah-meh-REE-kahns to Yankee Huns and you got it mostly right.

Posted by Whosh Hatfield7537 2007-12-12 14:37|| 2007-12-12 14:37|| Front Page Top

#24 Awesome CondorMan!

Posted by Thomas Woof 2007-12-12 14:41|| 2007-12-12 14:41|| Front Page Top

#25 done

Posted by 3dc 2007-12-12 14:43|| 2007-12-12 14:43|| Front Page Top

#26 Down load the version 0.02 script here

Posted by 3dc 2007-12-12 14:45|| 2007-12-12 14:45|| Front Page Top

#27 If folk like it maybe I should create a site for it at sourceforge.net and the community could improve it as it pleases.

Its possible a "c" version based on say jive or valspeak would be better as it would be easy to add a Windows GUI as a wrapper. Then one could just cut and paste from your editor to the translator and back.

(better would be a real web server somewhere doing a nice translation - badanov?)

Posted by 3dc 2007-12-12 15:07|| 2007-12-12 15:07|| Front Page Top

#28 She's right of course. Nukes are old-hat. Most of our security resources go into protecting our real assets; earthquake generators, mind-control transmitters, and the Fox newsbabes.

Posted by Dick Arbusto, CEO of Hallibushwater 2007-12-12 15:58|| 2007-12-12 15:58|| Front Page Top

#29 Dick, what is your schedule? I have some interesting coordinates....

Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-12 16:10|| 2007-12-12 16:10|| Front Page Top

#30 Well, twoby, I'll be in Berkeley on Friday, Madison the following Monday, and Cambridge the week after that.
As a faithful Rantburger, you would have the double secret superliminal quantum-mail address. Just send those coordinates on.

Posted by Dick Arbusto, CEO of Hallibushwater 2007-12-12 16:13|| 2007-12-12 16:13|| Front Page Top

#31 Shireen,
All your 7-11's are belong to us.

Posted by doc 2007-12-12 16:57|| 2007-12-12 16:57|| Front Page Top

#32 Dick, can you deliver hookers to the above coordinates?

Posted by Dino Snolumble5065 2007-12-12 17:21|| 2007-12-12 17:21|| Front Page Top

#33 hey Dino, he said FOX babes, not hooker foxes!

Posted by twobyfour 2007-12-12 17:23|| 2007-12-12 17:23|| Front Page Top

#34 Let me check Charlotte Raven's schedule, Dino.

Posted by Dick Arbusto, CEO of Hallibushwater 2007-12-12 17:57|| 2007-12-12 17:57|| Front Page Top

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