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2007-12-11 Britain

Death threats cant stop me being a Christian, says imams daughter

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Posted by Fred 2007-12-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [6 views ] Top
File under: Global Jihad

#1 At one point, 14 men with stones and knives came to her door and shouted at her to come out. When the threats became more serious a month ago.....

MORE serious than 14 dudes with stones and knives?
Geesh, where are the cops when all this is goin on?

Posted by Victor Emmanuel Angemble7970 2007-12-11 00:42|| 2007-12-11 00:42|| Front Page Top

#2 New Life Church Security Guard Ms. Jeanne Assam please report to the white, courtesy phone.

Posted by Besoeker 2007-12-11 00:49|| 2007-12-11 00:49|| Front Page Top

#3 There is no compulsion in Islam

Posted by CrazyFool 2007-12-11 00:51|| 2007-12-11 00:51|| Front Page Top

#4 "You are my Mothers, Brothers and Sisters", Jesus. When someone said that His family was outside a building wanting to see Him while he was teaching. This was before they were converted. In other words, your immediate family are your fellow Christians who are closer to you and far more supportive of you, than your unbelieving biological family, especially if the biological family is Islamic.

She will be fine...

Posted by www 2007-12-11 01:04|| 2007-12-11 01:04|| Front Page Top

#5 her brother told her that he could not be responsible for his actions if she did not return to Islam

Seethe.

Meat, meet cat. Makes sense to a muslim. I'll bet all her family was moderate before this gal became a Christian.

This is how things are even though they are a minority. They are just local majorities. What will things be like if they grow to make up a larger portion of the population or woven throughout the entire country? What if they develop a beef with you for whatever reason? Are you going to put up with that $hit? You can't trust your own government to do its job so you'll have to it for them, which means you will have to go on a suicide mission just to make a point and hope somebody with some balls and authority picks up where you left off. But the chances of that happening are getting dimmer with each passing year. Is that what the Magna Carta and England is all about? Or any derived countries, for that matter, including my own?

Of course the only reasonable reactive solution would be to deport the whole family and be done with it. Anyone else screws with her or even looks at her sideways, then deport them and their families too.

From the sounds of things, before you know it they would all be gone! :-) But if they aren't, it's just because they are biding their time for the day when they will be a majority or close enough to it.

Happy Christmas, Brown. Your war has just begun.

Posted by gorb 2007-12-11 02:10|| 2007-12-11 02:10|| Front Page Top

#6 Muhammad's call for conversion, death or Dhimmitude is clear. Which makes the point, Islam is not a religion of peace. Examples such as Hannah simply puntuate the point.

By the way anyone else notice the ad that popped up on this article's sidebar?

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#7 Hee hee! "Safe and Secure"!

Posted by gorb 2007-12-11 02:59|| 2007-12-11 02:59|| Front Page Top

#8 The flip side to this story is rarely heard, when a Muslim leaves Islam and becomes a Christian, and nobody does anything about it. And this is happening a lot. Islam is hemorrhaging followers.

If this girl gets away clean, her family will turn on itself in hatred. They will lean on each other to find out who was "responsible" for her leaving. They will suspect everyone else of also wanting to jump ship. They will oppress each other so much that others will consider what she considered.

Living in a western country and being a prisoner while surrounded by freedom has an erosive effect on their ability to control, to dominate. Over time, they adjust or they lose.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-12-11 07:21|| 2007-12-11 07:21|| Front Page Top

#9 However, two of the worlds leading Islamic scholars suggested recently that the death penalty was intended to be carried out only in the next life.

Kill them after they're already dead and sent to wherever Allah has decided to send them? Interesting theology, not to mention superseding the authority of their god. Or taqqiya. It's hard to tell, sometimes.

Posted by trailing wife">trailing wife 2007-12-11 07:34|| 2007-12-11 07:34|| Front Page Top

#10 The first freedom which we here in the West must demand of Islam is freedom of conscience in religious beliefs. Without that no further reform is possible.

Posted by Grumenk Philalzabod0723 2007-12-11 08:00|| 2007-12-11 08:00|| Front Page Top

#11 Close. I'd rather be free of islam forever, period.

Posted by Icerigger">Icerigger 2007-12-11 08:58|| http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm]">[http://coonlakebeach.com/support_mn_troops.htm] 2007-12-11 08:58|| Front Page Top

#12 "I'll bet all her family was moderate before this gal became a Christian."

And that's why she wore a burkha from age 10.

Al

Posted by Frozen Al 2007-12-11 12:23|| 2007-12-11 12:23|| Front Page Top

#13 Trying to force her into what would have been a shanghaied arranged marriage in a foreign state to a blood relative. This the first crime. Making threats if she doesn't submit to her families will is the second. Where are the the Cops and Legal authorities?

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2007-12-11 13:11|| 2007-12-11 13:11|| Front Page Top

#14 "...However, two of the worlds leading Islamic scholars suggested recently that the death penalty was intended to be carried out only in the next life."

Unfortunately there is no source for this. I doubt that majority muslim countries, any scholar, leading or otherwise, would say such a thing for public consumption (although they might do so for a clueless infidel newspaper reporter).

Posted by mhw">mhw 2007-12-11 14:01|| http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/]">[http://hypocrisy-incorporated.blogspot.com/] 2007-12-11 14:01|| Front Page Top

#15 However, two of the worlds leading Islamic scholars suggested recently that the death penalty was intended to be carried out only in the next life.

What? Islam believes in reincarnation?

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#16 Once again, moderate Muslims doing Allan's work. It's refreshing that so many are so willing to pick up the burden ~~and throw it at her~~ and labor under it.

Posted by wxjames 2007-12-11 14:58|| 2007-12-11 14:58|| Front Page Top

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