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2011-12-02 China-Japan-Koreas
The Problem with China Envy
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Posted by Mike 2011-12-02 09:00|| || Front Page|| [4 views ]  Top

#1 This envy of other systems has gone on for years. What we have had for the last three years is not Capitalism. Western Capitalism works period. I remember hearing a story about the best economic plan under Stalin. Stalin was given several ideas but one fellow said that Western Capitalism was the best. The idea was that when economic winter came under a Capitalist economic system the winter was much shorter. That recovery was more vigorous. Well that man was dead in two months time I understand. Russia at this time is more Capitalism than we are in my opinion. With Obama people another story can be told of two men walking down a street and one has a dog. The one is envious so kills the others dog. Why did you do that?. You had a dog and I didn't so now we are equal.
Posted by Dale 2011-12-02 10:02||   2011-12-02 10:02|| Front Page Top

#2 The envy takes different forms. During the brew-ha-ha of the Florida recounts I remember a number of my friends opining over the superiority of the parliamentary system that allows for rapid elections and provides the party in power with a majority in Parliament as well as the executive position.

I'm not bashing the parliamentary system, mind you, just pointing out the habit of grass is greener.

What I find truly interesting is that liberals can go on a carefully crafted tour of Cuba or China that avoids the poverty and still remain clueless. Are they willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant?
Posted by rjschwarz 2011-12-02 10:17||   2011-12-02 10:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Let's see what those now-gleaming airports and train systems look like in 25 years.
Posted by Perfesser 2011-12-02 10:27||   2011-12-02 10:27|| Front Page Top

#4 Are they willfully ignorant or just plain ignorant?

Can it be both?
Posted by Beavis 2011-12-02 10:35||   2011-12-02 10:35|| Front Page Top

#5 Of course 'authoritarianism' is the point. H. G. Wells may not have captured it as succinctly as Orwell did in Nineteen Eighty Four:

"The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power. Not wealth or luxury or long life or happiness: only power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from all the oligarchies of the past, in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just round the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know that no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
Posted by Steve White 2011-12-02 10:41||   2011-12-02 10:41|| Front Page Top

#6 Such envy lies amongst the progressive elite. It has a resurgence every so often when it happens to get a boost from an admirer such as BO and his followers. It dies away under a leader such as Reagan.

I don't know why the admirers of such a system don't realize it doesn't work.
Posted by JohnQC 2011-12-02 10:57||   2011-12-02 10:57|| Front Page Top

#7 ...as Steve's posting articulates - it's not about success or failure - its about power.
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-12-02 12:09||   2011-12-02 12:09|| Front Page Top

#8 "The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power."

Boy, that sums up Bambi and today's Dems, Dr. Steve. >:-(
Posted by Barbara 2011-12-02 14:11||   2011-12-02 14:11|| Front Page Top

#9 Can't be - I know for a fact that many of my University professors labeled FASCISTS as the "Authoritarians", while COMMIES were the "Totalitarians"???
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-12-02 19:25||   2011-12-02 19:25|| Front Page Top

#10 Political and economic inequality is much worse in China. And those of good measures of human development.
Posted by Clem Unort1053 2011-12-02 19:43||   2011-12-02 19:43|| Front Page Top

#11 Rj, spelling lesson of the day; from a former English teacher -- you get credit for proper usage, but points off for spelling:

>brouhaha
  /ˈbruhɑˌhɑ, ˌbruhɑˈhɑ, bruˈhɑhɑ/
1. excited public interest, discussion, or the like, as the clamor attending some sensational event; hullabaloo: The brouhaha followed disclosures of graft at City Hall.
2. an episode involving excitement, confusion, turmoil, etc., especially a broil over a minor or ridiculous cause: A brouhaha by the baseball players resulted in three black eyes.
Origin: 1885–90; < French, orig. brou, ha, ha! exclamation used by characters representing the devil in the 16th-cent. drama; perhaps < Hebrew, distortion of the recited phrase bārūkh habbā ( beshēm ădhōnai ) “blessed is he who comes (in the name of the Lord)”
Posted by Scooter McGruder 2011-12-02 21:07||   2011-12-02 21:07|| Front Page Top

#12 Brew! Ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Heh...heh-heh-heh. Zzzzzz...
Posted by Grease Jith3343 2011-12-03 00:01||   2011-12-03 00:01|| Front Page Top

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