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2008-12-30 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel mulls truce offer on Day 4 of Gaza assault
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Posted by tu3031 2008-12-30 12:05|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ]  Top
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#1 Reinforcing the "lesson learned" in the last 8 years that air power can "condition" the battle area but unless the enemy surrenders ground forces ARE required.

Olmert has just bumped up against his worst nightmare. A truce will probably cost him the election as this would be the same result as 2006.
Posted by tipover 2008-12-30 13:32||   2008-12-30 13:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Ground forces first: hammer Hamas, flatten everything they own, and make the Gazooks understand that NOONE is allowed to fire a rocket at Israel.

Then call a truce.
Posted by Steve White 2008-12-30 13:41||   2008-12-30 13:41|| Front Page Top

#3 Israel Rejects Truce, Presses on With Gaza Strikes

Im glad. Israel has given Hamas too many chances to prove itself. The only thing Hamas will ever be is a terrorist organization.

Posted by lftbhndagn">lftbhndagn  2008-12-30 14:03|| http://lftbhndagn.wordpress.com]">[http://lftbhndagn.wordpress.com]  2008-12-30 14:03|| Front Page Top

#4 The UN's De Soto was just on the BBC. He actually attempted to justify the rocket attacks as a signal from Hamas that they be included in negotiations.
Posted by john frum 2008-12-30 15:09||   2008-12-30 15:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Change will only occur when Israel annexes a significant portion of Gaza (preferably all) and kicks out the Palis.
Posted by ed 2008-12-30 15:13||   2008-12-30 15:13|| Front Page Top

#6 I hope that Israel rejects ANY and ALL truces with Hamas. By their actions, Hamas have shown that they are a terrorist organization with the purpose of the destruction of Israel. There should be NO negotiations, but just discussions as to where everyone and everything is that Hamas owns or controls.

If Israel backs down from a path of total victory and the destruction of Hamas, she will just be repeating the debacle of the Lebanon fiasco. Suicide on the installment plan.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2008-12-30 15:26||   2008-12-30 15:26|| Front Page Top

#7 Backdown? No, I smell a Dinnerjacket trip wire.
Posted by Besoeker 2008-12-30 15:32||   2008-12-30 15:32|| Front Page Top

#8 Is it OK to mull a truce offer for six months?
Posted by gorb 2008-12-30 15:32||   2008-12-30 15:32|| Front Page Top

#9 Yes Gorb. It is if you keep flattening the enemy while mulling.
Posted by DarthVader 2008-12-30 15:36||   2008-12-30 15:36|| Front Page Top

#10 Olmert has just bumped up against his worst nightmare. A truce will probably cost him the election as this would be the same result as 2006.

As I recall, Prime Minister Olmert will not be running in February, which agreement kept him from receiving a formal no-confidence vote in September or so, with all that entails. Tzipi Livni will head the Kadimah ticket vs. Ehud Barack for Labour and Benjamin Netenyahu for Likud.
Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife  2008-12-30 16:01||   2008-12-30 16:01|| Front Page Top

#11 I assume for the sake of discussion Hama Rules do not apply and will never apply in Gaza. Mores the pity.

What are Hama Rules? Tis' a phrase coined by the sometime Jewish writer for the NYT, Tom Friedeman.

In 1980 Daddy Assad's regime was having troubles with "islamic fundies". He id'ed the location of the troubles: the city of Hama in Syria.

Daddy Assad surrounded the city of Hama with all the ground forces at his disposal. For seven days his ground forces pounded Hama. Few were permitted to leave. Low end estimation of the death toll: 10K. High end 25K.

The city was leveled. Thereafter the earth salted.

Oddly enough, Daddy Assad was never troubled with islamo-fundies during the remaining years of his regime.

Hence the term: Hama Rules.

Israel, take note. Daddy Assad didn't give a fig about world opinion. Why should you?
Posted by MarkZ 2008-12-30 16:58||   2008-12-30 16:58|| Front Page Top

#12 Israel is considering suspending its Gaza offensive to give Hamas militants an opening to halt their rocket fire.

Churchill said about protecting the Normandy invasion " all truth should, in a war, be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies"



Posted by Injun Angulet2150 2008-12-30 17:12||   2008-12-30 17:12|| Front Page Top

#13 have the shut off the water, gas and electricity?
If not do so now!
Posted by 3dc 2008-12-30 17:33||   2008-12-30 17:33|| Front Page Top

#14 You're correct TW. I should have referenced Olmert's party rather than Olmert himself. Thanks. ;-)
Posted by tipover 2008-12-30 18:19||   2008-12-30 18:19|| Front Page Top

#15 sometime Jewish writer
Now, that, that's damn arctic
Posted by .5MT 2008-12-30 20:05||   2008-12-30 20:05|| Front Page Top

#16 Israel is considering suspending its Gaza offensive to give Hamas militants an opening to halt their rocket fire an ability to rearm and dig in..

Posted by Linker 2008-12-30 21:08||   2008-12-30 21:08|| Front Page Top

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