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2006-12-24 Africa Horn
NYT: Across Africa, a Sense That U.S. Power Isn’t So Super
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Posted by .com 2006-12-24 01:33|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Back in the 1970s and 1980s, Mr. Crocker said, there were few other avenues. In those cold war days, he said, sustained, patient, high-level American involvement helped end wars from Angola to Mozambique and helped to bring South Africa’s brutal apartheid system to its knees.

A tidy bid of history re-written there Jeffrey. It was long ago, but I would urge you to study the events a tad deeper. Military aid from the West to South Africa and the bold determination of the... (now nearly defunct SADF) chased Fidel Castro and his merry band of Russian proxies from the continent, ending wars, YES WARS in Mozzie and Angola. I can forward you the statistics on SADF KIA during that long bloody period of you like, it was mandetory national service in those days you know. The SADF or the national police, your choice. Supported by backchannel pleadings and requests for assistance from Washington and Downing Street to South Africa and Rhodesia, many served and many died ending communism, yes communism. The US had just ended a long struggle fighting communism in SE Asia, and as now, public sentiment for involvement in Africa was, well lets just say, not at high levels. Unfortunately, thier patriotism and support of the west availed the Rhodies and the SA's little in the end. They were Dutch Reformed, Methodist, LDS, Lutheran, Pentecostal and Jewish, largely white men and farmers you see. They were and many remain non-multiculturists in a dumbed down world of cultural diversity, colour preference, Black Economic Empowerment (BEE), Affirmative Action, and denial. How could they ultimately survive? How will they? Get it right Jeffrey, or don't attempt it please. U.S. Power is still Super!

Posted by Besoeker 2006-12-24 02:19||   2006-12-24 02:19|| Front Page Top

#2 But, at least, it wasn't in vain Besoeker. It helped create a better world.
“Down, down U.S.A.!” thousands of Somalis yelled, many of them waving cocked Kalashnikovs. “Slit the throats of the Americans!”
Posted by gromgoru 2006-12-24 03:00||   2006-12-24 03:00|| Front Page Top

#3 Indeed it did Grom, indeed it did.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-12-24 03:23||   2006-12-24 03:23|| Front Page Top

#4 Unfortunately, thier patriotism and support of the west availed the Rhodies and the SA's little in the end. They were Dutch Reformed, Methodist, LDS, Lutheran, Pentecostal and Jewish, largely white men and farmers you see. They were and many remain non-multiculturists in a dumbed down world of cultural diversity, colour preference, Black Economic Empowerment (BEE), Affirmative Action, and denial. How could they ultimately survive? How will they?

2006, and please have a fearless look partisans at what the Turd Polishers have wrought; welcome to Zimbabwe Bob and his compulsory hell and the arrested South African Jewel in an inexorable decent, soon to join them.

If I am ever put in charge of hell, there won't be a cool NYT editor, columnist and or journalist.
»:-)
Posted by RD 2006-12-24 04:21||   2006-12-24 04:21|| Front Page Top

#5 descent
Posted by RD 2006-12-24 04:23||   2006-12-24 04:23|| Front Page Top

#6 Don't you mean USDS official, RD?
Posted by gromgoru 2006-12-24 04:58||   2006-12-24 04:58|| Front Page Top

#7 U.S. Department of State,

them first grom, straight to hell!

»:-)
Posted by RD 2006-12-24 05:12||   2006-12-24 05:12|| Front Page Top

#8 Why are we going over this again? For those of you who haven't yet got the message, read Kim DuToit's Let Africa Sink. Personally, I don't give a flying if everyone on the whole continent dies of AIDS, gunfire, malaria or the galloping crud. They aren't worth the bones of one American Marine, to paraphrase Lord Salisbury. Screw the lot of them.
Posted by mac 2006-12-24 05:23||   2006-12-24 05:23|| Front Page Top

#9 Amen Mac.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-12-24 05:34||   2006-12-24 05:34|| Front Page Top

#10 I talked to some phony refugees from Somalia. They all support the Islamofascist dictatorship. They should support them from close range.
Posted by Sneaze Shaiting3550 2006-12-24 05:50||   2006-12-24 05:50|| Front Page Top

#11 The whole article is a schoolyard taunt aimed at getting Uncle Sam to increase his Africa aid budget. (They're reduced to panhandling and getting table scraps from the Chinese* and they don't like it). Ain't gonna happen.

* The Chinese? The same losers who lost more people from famines in the 20th century than all of Africa?
Posted by Zhang Fei 2006-12-24 05:56|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com]  2006-12-24 05:56|| Front Page Top

#12 Why are we going over this again? For those of you who haven't yet got the message, read Kim DuToit's Let Africa Sink. Personally, I don't give a flying if everyone on the whole continent dies of AIDS, gunfire, malaria or the galloping crud. They aren't worth the bones of one American Marine, to paraphrase Lord Salisbury. Screw the lot of them.

New visitors read RB everyday. plus due diligence demands we must counteract the avalanche of perpetual lies...

Kim du Toit
May 26, 2002, Let Africa Sink
thanks mac.
Posted by RD 2006-12-24 06:41||   2006-12-24 06:41|| Front Page Top

#13 Already read it and have to agree. Nothing short of a massive die-off is going to help Africa climb out of its stoneage barbarity. Tribalism keeps bashing its head against twenty-first century reality. I had my fill of it years ago.
Posted by Zenster">Zenster  2006-12-24 06:55||   2006-12-24 06:55|| Front Page Top

#14 And, just why, are we importing these same Somalis into Minnesota ? They're the same scum who were gun sexing with AK's a year or so ago. Think they've changed ?
Posted by SpecOp35 2006-12-24 12:06||   2006-12-24 12:06|| Front Page Top

#15 And, just why, are we importing these same Somalis into Minnesota ?

Blame the MultiCulti's in the Immigration Dept. They're importing the dregs of the African continent and elsewhere.

Where we see blight and devastation, they see communities that need the government to take care of them. Job security for the Socialists...and votes.
Posted by Greremp Uleremp6059 2006-12-24 13:46||   2006-12-24 13:46|| Front Page Top

#16 We don't want these goat buggerers for Allen! It's just the Hennepin county liberals that are drawing them here in droves. The rest of Minnesota isn't exposed to these pathetic lazy (yes they are, check the welfare numbers) islamics.

By the way thank you BJ Clinton.
Posted by Icerigger 2006-12-24 14:20||   2006-12-24 14:20|| Front Page Top

#17 to its (the USA's) current support for Ethiopia, which is taking sides in Somalia’s internal politics.

They are supporting the UN created and recognized government. Of course this doesn't fit the NYT's geopolitics as a morality play view of the world and so gets ignored.
Posted by phil_b 2006-12-24 15:44||   2006-12-24 15:44|| Front Page Top

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