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NSA surveillance broader than previously acknowledged

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-12-24 10:25|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Amazing! I actually beat Dan to a story. Must be because of the internet problems this morning.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2005-12-24 10:59|| 2005-12-24 10:59|| Front Page Top

#2 Those internet problems are hacker boy trying to access my Word Press files. Presumably they can be exploited. Since there aren't any, each request errors out.

After Xmas, I'm buying a hardware firewall, which should cut out some of that crap, though this bunch uses IP cloaking.

Posted by Fred 2005-12-24 11:22|| 2005-12-24 11:22|| Front Page Top

#3 combed through large volumes of phone and Internet traffic in search of patterns that might lead to terrorists

= Data Mining

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2005-12-24 11:30|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2005-12-24 11:30|| Front Page Top

#4 "After Xmas, I'm buying a hardware firewall, which should cut out some of that crap, though this bunch uses IP cloaking. - Fred"

Check your PayPal account in a couple of minutes, Fred. Hope it helps.

Merry Christmas to all. Or Happy Hannukah. (Or Happy Whatever - your mileage may vary. ;-p)

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2005-12-24 11:41|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2005-12-24 11:41|| Front Page Top

#5 "... in search of patterns ..."
Does this require a warrant? Seems more like a 'stakeout'?

"...quoting an unnamed official."
Can't anybody keep their mouth shut?

"The story quoted a former technology manager..."
Who should soon take up residence at a federal penitentiary.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2005-12-24 11:41|| 2005-12-24 11:41|| Front Page Top

#6 I wouldn't care if they date mined every citizens (and non-citizen) in the country. I also think Bush's ratings would go up if that were announced. Nobody had hit us since Sept 11 and the data mining hasn't effected my life in any noticable way. Go for it.

Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz 2005-12-24 12:01|| rjschwarz.com]">[rjschwarz.com] 2005-12-24 12:01|| Front Page Top

#7 Same here, Fred. PayPal.

Posted by .com 2005-12-24 12:46|| 2005-12-24 12:46|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm sending you a little firewall contribution myself.

Posted by Darrell 2005-12-24 12:55|| 2005-12-24 12:55|| Front Page Top

#9 Google "david kahn traffic analysis".

Legal. Long used. No personal data needed, no violation of rights.

Thank you NYT for drawing attention to that again. Bastards.

Posted by Oldspook 2005-12-24 13:26|| 2005-12-24 13:26|| Front Page Top

#10 Shoot the leakers, shut down the NYT. Benedict Arnolds have no rights in the USA.

Posted by Unoluck Thuger4056 2005-12-24 13:37|| 2005-12-24 13:37|| Front Page Top

#11 NY Times continues to work on behalf of the Islamist enemy. Pinch & co. breathed in the vaporized remains of their neighbors slaughtered on 9/11. I bet much of their leadership is even Jewish. How can they not understand what will happen if 'their' side wins?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2005-12-24 14:27|| 2005-12-24 14:27|| Front Page Top

#12 I sent you some help at paypal also. Good luck Fred and merry xmas.

Posted by 49 pan">49 pan 2005-12-24 14:51|| 2005-12-24 14:51|| Front Page Top

#13 Michelle Malkin has a lot more.

I haven't read it all but this quote from the NYT jumped out at me.

What has not been publicly acknowledged is that N.S.A. technicians, besides actually eavesdropping on specific conversations, have combed through large volumes of phone and Internet traffic in search of patterns that might point to terrorism suspects. Some officials describe the program as a large data-mining operation.

I'll suggest the eavesdropping on specific conversations bit has been made up by the reporter or relates to some thing other than the DM, because it would be like examining a single snow flake to see if there was enough snow to ski on, i.e. a complete waste of time.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2005-12-24 19:29|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2005-12-24 19:29|| Front Page Top

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