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2003-12-19 Europe

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Posted by Steve White 2003-12-19 12:58:54 AM|| || Front Page|| [11126 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 So, how much credit are we getting from 'islam', moderate or otherwise, for going to the mat for them in Bosnia?

*crickets*

Posted by 4thInfVet 2003-12-19 1:26:29 AM|| 2003-12-19 1:26:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Those were European Muslims. They don't count.

Posted by Rafael 2003-12-19 1:45:38 AM|| 2003-12-19 1:45:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 4thInfVet, The Bosnian Muslims are true moderates, who love to drink and dance, and thus are considered heretical by the wahabbis. They have a unique, westernized architecture that Wahabbi "missionaries" from Saudia have vandalized. Their mosques look more like Cathedrals, so the Wahabbis demand that they be torn down and rebuilt in the Saudi Arabian style.

I regret I don't have the link, but the religious leader of the Bosnian Muslims praised the United States and Bill Clinton to high heaven for coming to their aid, reminding the reporter that the United States didn't have to come and spend that kind of money and risk the lives of their sons and daughters for strangers. He called the United States "The Crown of the World". That, at the end of the age, when Allah judges the world, If He demanded if any nation ever did anything righteous, that he (the leader) would nominate the United States of America.

Ohhh, they were grateful all right. Very grateful. THEN. Lord knows how they are now, or if that guy still draws breath to bear witness.

Posted by Ptah 2003-12-19 5:27:35 AM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2003-12-19 5:27:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 whoa..whoa..whoa. What am I missing here?
Clarkâs testimony gave U.N. prosecutors the most direct evidence yet linking the former Yugoslav leader to the genocide

Prosecution spokeswoman Florence Hartmann said Clarkâs testimony was ``extremely important for us,ââ and experts agreed it was the most direct evidence so far indicating Milosevic had advance knowledge of the intention to kill Muslim captives at the U.N.-protected zone at Srebrenica.

That's it????? That's the best they got? Mr. Vain/Glorious' statement? Thousands raped and buried in mass graves and this is THE BEST THEY CAN COME UP WITH????? Somebody fire the prosecutor! This is outright pathetic. Great job of investigating guys.

He avoided arguments despite provocation from Milosevic, who suggested Clark left his NATO command early because of character problems and was taking campaign contributions from Albanian separatists in Kosovo for his Democratic presidential nomination bid

Regardless of whether it is true or not, this would have been the case if Clark wasn't such a useful tool for the UN. You can picture the headline at the NYT. The he-said/he-said advantage definitely would have gone to Milosevic.

Unfortunately for Milosevic, the UN and Euroweenies can all see the advantage of boosting Clark's stature right now . Tough luck there, Milosevic, looks like you came up against the one US General they intend to maintain as their respected patsy.

What a world we live in. Milosevic was the leader and thus responsible for the slaughter and rape of millions. I guess it's just another ho-hum these days. Can't prove it, so let's give the guy an honorary citizenship in Frace.

The UN is so lame! This is an outrage...but sadly, everything the UN does is an outrage...we've just become immune to it.

Posted by B 2003-12-19 9:13:48 AM|| 2003-12-19 9:13:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 thousands..millions...whatever.

Posted by B 2003-12-19 9:18:18 AM|| 2003-12-19 9:18:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 the 'best direct evidence' is Clark's recollection of what Milosevic said

in the US this has another name; it's called 'hearsay' or less politely 'scuttlebutt'

the only time this would be admitted into evidence in a criminal case would be if the underlying crime involved the defendent saying something

Posted by mhw 2003-12-19 9:36:23 AM|| 2003-12-19 9:36:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Um, no. Any statements by a defendant are by definition not hearsay. Whether they are relevant evidence, or are evidence worthy of weight, is another question.

Posted by Nick 2003-12-19 10:05:55 AM|| 2003-12-19 10:05:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 "The defendant stated to me that..." is direct evidence. "The defendant's cousin stated that the defendant told him..." is hearsay.

Posted by mojo 2003-12-19 1:21:15 PM|| 2003-12-19 1:21:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "If only Himmler had listened to me..." (Adolf Hitler)

/sarcasm off

Posted by True German Ally 2003-12-19 1:25:53 PM|| 2003-12-19 1:25:53 PM|| Front Page Top

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