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2005-12-16 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by john 2005-12-16 16:12|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Gee, I wonder who they're thinkin' about hittin' with that 3500km range? London, perhaps?

Posted by FOTSGreg">FOTSGreg 2005-12-16 17:06|| 2005-12-16 17:06|| Front Page Top

#2 Bush did call them "an axis of evil"

Posted by john 2005-12-16 17:23|| 2005-12-16 17:23|| Front Page Top

#3 I'm sure they're nothing more than those friendly dual-purpose missiles.

Posted by Hyper">Hyper 2005-12-16 17:27|| 2005-12-16 17:27|| Front Page Top

#4 Needed for the Iranian Lunar exploration project. There may be uranium on the moon they will need for their reactors after the earth runs our.

Posted by Spise Anginert1155 2005-12-16 17:31|| 2005-12-16 17:31|| Front Page Top

#5 4000km is the magic number. That will hit all of Europe. 3500km will target all but Spain and the UK, including all the Russian population centers east of the Urals.
Irian Ballistic Missiles see map at bottom

Posted by ed 2005-12-16 17:44|| 2005-12-16 17:44|| Front Page Top

#6 west of the Urals

Posted by ed 2005-12-16 17:44|| 2005-12-16 17:44|| Front Page Top

#7 The question is, when were these missiles bought and delivered?

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-12-16 17:54|| 2005-12-16 17:54|| Front Page Top

#8 But, but, but, how could the Mad Mullahs work with those NKor Stalinists? I mean, can you say "Whoa! These are WAY different countries, so how could they work with each other"?

If this were true, then that means Saddam, a (aleged) mooslim, who hosted and paid known terrorists, who was known to have used and suspected of still having WMDs, could possibly, might have, maybe worked with Islamic terrorists? Like al-Queda? Naw, never happen.

Posted by Brett 2005-12-16 18:28|| 2005-12-16 18:28|| Front Page Top

#9
16 December 2005

HAMBURG - German intelligence believes Iran has now bought 18 longer-range missiles from North Korea, giving Tehran the capability to attack targets in central Europe, the German daily newspaper Bild reported Friday.

The study by the foreign intelligence service BND said the BM-25 missiles were being purchased from Pyongyang in the form of kit sets. The mobile missiles, which are based on the Russian SS-N-6 missile for submarine launch, will have a nominal range of 2,500 kilometres.

However it was possible to upgrade them to hit targets 3,500 kilometres away, the Munich-based BND said.

Iran already has Shehab-3 missiles with a range of 1,300 kilometres.

Bild quoted the BND dossier as saying: "Germany and other parts of Europe could be affected in the medium to long term by the Iranian missile programme."

It added: "With longer ranges in the future, combined with the apparent efforts to obtain nuclear warheads, Iran would be in a position to reach all of Israel and parts of central Europe.

Posted by john 2005-12-16 18:41|| 2005-12-16 18:41|| Front Page Top

#10 Given the slow death that North Korea is living, it is a distinct possibility that both they and Iran will try it on at the same time.

The entire world still remembers 1968, when the US was so distracted elsewhere, and pretty powerless anyway, that the invasion of Czechoslovakia went off without serious repercussions to Russia.

It took us 23 years, and Ronald Reagan, to finally redeem that stain.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-12-16 18:42|| 2005-12-16 18:42|| Front Page Top

#11 I think 2006 is going to be a rough year...

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2005-12-16 18:47|| 2005-12-16 18:47|| Front Page Top

#12 but cleansing....I see problems that won't last a a year before resolution

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-16 18:51|| 2005-12-16 18:51|| Front Page Top

#13 The question now is.. what exactly did they get from AQ Khan either directly (from the network) or indirectly (from North Korea) ?

Pakistan traded the Chinese bomb design for North Korean ballistic missiles.
Iran has nothing that valuable to trade (technology wise) but has two things that North Korea wants badly - oil and hard currency.

Has North Korea sold the Chinese weapon designs to Iran?
What about Plutonium or Uranium?

Posted by john 2005-12-16 18:54|| 2005-12-16 18:54|| Front Page Top

#14 I think you're right, Frank, though it's gonna be one of those "no way to go around it but to go through it" deals...

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2005-12-16 19:00|| 2005-12-16 19:00|| Front Page Top

#15 makes it easier to go through when there's already big smokin' holes...heh heh

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-12-16 19:28|| 2005-12-16 19:28|| Front Page Top

#16 Israel needs to shove this over the tipping point really, really soon.

Posted by Darrell 2005-12-16 19:43|| 2005-12-16 19:43|| Front Page Top

#17 What do you figure the odds are that 2006 will produce some really, REALLY big craters, somewhere? I'm figuring about a 90% chance...

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2005-12-16 19:45|| 2005-12-16 19:45|| Front Page Top

#18 I'm with you on that, Dave. I would be absolutely amazed if Iran isn't Swiss cheese by the end of 2006.

Posted by Darrell 2005-12-16 19:52|| 2005-12-16 19:52|| Front Page Top

#19 And that would be really good for the Dhimmicrats, right?

Posted by Nancy Pelosi 2005-12-16 20:18|| 2005-12-16 20:18|| Front Page Top

#20 "And that would be really good for the Dhimmicrats, right?"

The really pathetic irony of this whole thing is that if the Donks had made a decision back in late 2001/early 2002 to support the war wholeheartedly-- and stuck with that support through the 2004 election-- they would very likely have a majority in the House and in the Senate, and maybe even have the Presidency as well.

Can you imagine what their situation would be today if they'd taken the absolutely titanic amount of energy they've poured into bashing Bush and the war, and put it instead into coming up with an attractive (i.e., realistic, practical and effective) suite of domestic policy initiatives that actually addressed the real concerns of real Americans???

Instead, they decided to unleash the roaring tiger of MoveOn.org's and DU's BDS Brigades, and take a ride on it-- except that ride didn't take them to victory.

And now they can't even get off that tiger.

Poor, dumb fucks...

Posted by Dave D.">Dave D. 2005-12-16 20:42|| 2005-12-16 20:42|| Front Page Top

#21 The long-range missiles are intended to be used by the Moolahs for generating nuclear energy, don't you know.

Just think, they plan to provide nuke energy for Israel and Europe. How generous.

Posted by Captain America 2005-12-16 21:54|| 2005-12-16 21:54|| Front Page Top

#22 I would be absolutely amazed if Iran isn't Swiss cheese by the end of 2006.

Considering the timeline for their development of nuclear weapons I'd be somewhat amazed if that didn't happen in the next 90-ish days.

Posted by AzCat 2005-12-16 22:33|| 2005-12-16 22:33|| Front Page Top

#23 Time to mention the Tancredo contingency plan for Mecca again. Any missiles launched from Iran result in ==============glass.

Posted by jules 2 2005-12-16 23:05|| 2005-12-16 23:05|| Front Page Top

#24 Time to mention the Tancredo contingency plan for Mecca again. Any missiles launched from Iran result in ==============glass.

Posted by jules 2 2005-12-16 23:06|| 2005-12-16 23:06|| Front Page Top

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