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2015-12-15 Europe

Multiculturalism is a sham, says Angela Merkel

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Posted by Fred 2015-12-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 "We want and we will reduce the number of refugees noticeably."

Given German history, this sounds ominous.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-12-15 01:45|| 2015-12-15 01:45|| Front Page Top

#2 well what the hell is this? merkel is the one who threw open the borders and caused this mess

how is that consistent with this position?

how is she going to change multiculturalism now? very difficult -- especially with thousands upon thousands of migrants who are radically different in cultural terms and feel a sense of entitlement never to change their ways

Posted by anon1 2015-12-15 04:45|| 2015-12-15 04:45|| Front Page Top

#3 how is she going to change multiculturalism now?

Barbed wire, showers and smokestacks?

Posted by Ebbart Glererong5900 2015-12-15 05:11|| 2015-12-15 05:11|| Front Page Top

#4 With the damage done and her public opinion plummeting, she uncouples from emotion and resorts to logic and common sense.

Posted by Besoeker 2015-12-15 05:35|| 2015-12-15 05:35|| Front Page Top

#5 sadly, no, Besoeker.

It is a clear and obvious lie. She cannot do anything about it now. She woumld have rioting in the streets from the violent thugs of the hard left and the fifth column she just imported

it would be civil war. it is impossible and she does not mean what she said or she wouldnt have set up these conditions in the first place.

Ebbert G -- i do not think it is correct to bring up auschwitz in response to merkel saying she would reign in multiculturalism.

What are you saying ? That if a country wishes to keep its borders, if they wish to keep their own culture, that if they ask immigrants to give up their own culture and integrate that is equivalent to auschwitz?

you must be an internationalist who does not believe in borders

well nor does Islamofascism and look at the violence that brings

that only leads to the worst kind of war - civil war, where ordinary people kill each other in the streets

state on state warfare is preferable because there is some discipline and rules of war, eg geneva convention

internationalism is in some ways worse than nationalism

Posted by anon1 2015-12-15 05:47|| 2015-12-15 05:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Ebbert G -- i do not think it is correct to bring up auschwitz in response to merkel saying she would reign in multiculturalism.

I didn't directly mention Auschwitz or any of the other Camps by name.

What are you saying ? That if a country wishes to keep its borders, if they wish to keep their own culture, that if they ask immigrants to give up their own culture and integrate that is equivalent to auschwitz?

I'm not saying that at all. Merely positing that it might ONE solution that could be studied. An effective one at that. So that others may learn.

The smart thing would have been to never let them in, however, that ship has sailed. For all of us. What remains is to finally accept that they need to be confined to their Muslim 3rd world crapholes by force if necessary.

Posted by Ebbart Glererong5900 2015-12-15 06:41|| 2015-12-15 06:41|| Front Page Top

#7 you must be an internationalist who does not believe in borders

well nor does Islamofascism and look at the violence that brings

that only leads to the worst kind of war - civil war, where ordinary people kill each other in the streets

Oops! I missed this. I'm NOT an Internationalist by any stretch. American, Southerner, hard core right-wing Nationalist. Willing to accept hard decisions and ruthless action to save my country from the Left and the Islamists. Including civil war.

Borders? I definitely believe in them. Just haven't seen them enforced for decades, past time for that to end.

Because, sometimes civil war is just what the doctor ordered.

Posted by Ebbart Glererong5900 2015-12-15 06:47|| 2015-12-15 06:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Merkel is a typical politician and will lie to further her ends.

She's therefore good at talking the talk that's required....walking the walk? Not so much.

Posted by AlanC 2015-12-15 07:23|| 2015-12-15 07:23|| Front Page Top

#9 This is like Obama going over the Potomac to the five sided building and proclaiming we're winning against ISIS. Cheap theater for the masses who are becoming dangerously restive.

Posted by Procopius2k 2015-12-15 08:35|| 2015-12-15 08:35|| Front Page Top

#10 Reciprocal Cultures can mix with each other without problem and often to mutual benefit.
Tribal cultures such as those found in islam infested areas cannot reciprocate and thus very little excess wealth can be created there, and thus civilisation is not possible.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2015-12-15 09:07|| 2015-12-15 09:07|| Front Page Top

#11 Good luck getting folks that came to your country for the nice benefits to suddenly develop a German work ethic.

Hopefully the US will change our own immigration quotas to allow lots of Germans in when the time comes and they decide their nation is lost. We could use an injection of hard work ethic DNA in our national character again.

Posted by rjschwarz 2015-12-15 10:02|| 2015-12-15 10:02|| Front Page Top

#12 Here's a link that might help us all understand: Multiple personality disorder.

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2015-12-15 12:36|| 2015-12-15 12:36|| Front Page Top

#13 "suddenly develop a German work ethic"

I think the Germans would be happy if the Greeks developed a "German work ethic."

Posted by Barbara 2015-12-15 14:59|| 2015-12-15 14:59|| Front Page Top

#14 #12.

Could be, but with her erratic behavior, highs, lows and emotional u-turns, she reminds me more of Edith Bunker going through "the change."

Posted by JHH 2015-12-15 15:21|| 2015-12-15 15:21|| Front Page Top

#15 Multiculturalism is a sham. She got that right. Unfortunately, her epiphany was a little late in coming. Universities have raised multiculturalism to the level of a deity. Multiculturalism is not worth the candle--particularly if the cost is giving up your own culture.

Posted by JohnQC 2015-12-15 16:49|| 2015-12-15 16:49|| Front Page Top

#16 multiculturalism only works for those cultures based on Enlightenment principles that are secular in nature.

So for example - germans, portuguese, italians, greeks, english, indians, sri lankans, irish, americans, canadians, south africans all get along great in australia

those cultures that did not come from an enlightenment background but are at least secular and have a hard work ethic also rub along quite well - Iran (secular Iranians most fled when the ayatollah took over) chinese, thai, christian lebanese, secular muslim pakistanis, korean, japanese, vietnamese - all get along great in Australia

African blacks have only just begun arriving but so far the Kenyans are getting along great but the somalis less so ... guess why the somalis are less so....

But those from Islamic countries who themselves are Islamist, who view Islam as supreme and who wish for sharia - they have caused nothing but problems. muslim lebanese of southwest sydney, theocratic iranians, theocratic indonesians, somalis, theocratic pakistanis, theocratic turks... any Islamist immigrants = BIG problem

Posted by anon1 2015-12-15 17:46|| 2015-12-15 17:46|| Front Page Top

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