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2004-12-14 Terror Networks & Islam
Zogby: Islam's so misunderstood
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Posted by Fred 2004-12-14 4:24:55 PM|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Dr. Zogby said that authors of three best selling books on Islam in the US have never been to Saudi Arabia.

BFD. And most Catholics never make it Rome.

As someone who has lived in an Arab country and has visited 3 others, I can assure all of you that one's view of Islam does not improve with the decrease of distance or the increase of time.
Posted by Dreadnought 2004-12-14 4:49:39 PM||   2004-12-14 4:49:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm sure President Kerry agrees with your predictions, Mr. Zogby.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-12-14 4:51:37 PM||   2004-12-14 4:51:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Poor damn Muslims. When they aren't being persecuted or victimized, they're being misunderstood. The way people talk, you'd think they might've blown up some buildings and killed a buncha people or something...
Posted by tu3031 2004-12-14 4:54:54 PM||   2004-12-14 4:54:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 That's his brother TGA.
Posted by tu3031 2004-12-14 4:55:40 PM||   2004-12-14 4:55:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 A bright family :-)
Posted by True German Ally 2004-12-14 5:03:05 PM||   2004-12-14 5:03:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm sold. I'll just hop on the next plane to Riyadh and take the first available camel to Mecca, so I can learn all about Islam.
Posted by Seafarious  2004-12-14 5:26:19 PM||   2004-12-14 5:26:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Dr. Zogby said that authors of three best selling books on Islam in the US have never been to Saudi Arabia

But isn't Islam, as practiced in the US, Islam? And if the imams in US mosques happen to be preaching hate and death-to-jooooos, isn't that what Islam is?

Another ROP'er who has to keep reminding us that islam is the ROP, lest we conclude otherwise, based on facts.
Posted by PlanetDan  2004-12-14 5:55:01 PM||   2004-12-14 5:55:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm amazed at the folks who scream about how Islam is "misunderstood", who will then scream bloody murder when you start quoting chapter and verse from the Koran, hadith, and sira that justify everything you've said.

And will shriek all the louder when you point out that Islamic societies always seem to organize themselves around those verses -- and their worst interpretations -- than around the sweetness and light ones they like to quote.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-12-14 6:02:07 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-12-14 6:02:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 That darn media has created a climate of hate. On the hother hand - how should the media report Muslims in the streets cheering 9/11; fatwas declared by clerics to kill infidel Americans; Muslims in a great debate over whether beheadings carried out by terrorists are countenanced under Islam; Muslims looking the other way after the murder of school children in Russia; the murder of Van Gogh followed by Muslims looking the other way; the continual cold blooded murder of Iraqis citizens by terrorists followed by the cheering of Muslims; ... ? Yeah, the media has created quite a problem for the Muslims.
Posted by HANK 2004-12-14 6:05:41 PM||   2004-12-14 6:05:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Dr. Zogby said that authors of three best selling books on Islam in the US have never been to Saudi Arabia

probably because your 7th century hotbed of ignorance, intolerance and blame/humiliation are afraid to let anyone in who may have diferent ideas in
Posted by Frank G  2004-12-14 6:23:07 PM||   2004-12-14 6:23:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 But we DID misunderstand Islam. See, we thought it was the religion of peace and enlightment. Turns out Islam is the cult of death, wife beating, gang rapists, cowardice, treachery, pedophilia and hatred.

We get it now, and are taking the appropriate steps, ie extermination of this death cult from the face of the earth along with it's soon-to-be-fed-to-pigs followers.
Posted by Silentbrick  2004-12-14 6:30:36 PM||   2004-12-14 6:30:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Someone's been drinkin' Koran-Aid.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-12-14 6:41:34 PM||   2004-12-14 6:41:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Not too many Muslims have been to the Moon, either, but...
Posted by .com 2004-12-14 6:43:54 PM||   2004-12-14 6:43:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Dr Zogby is simply practicing taqiyya (aka tactical lying, dissimulation).
Posted by mhw 2004-12-14 7:29:48 PM||   2004-12-14 7:29:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 mhw that they actually have a word that discribes the practice speaks volunes of how much we actually understand them now and how little we did understand before.

We have been down the path of telling them to play nice. Now we will force them to. I don't judge islam one bit on what it says. I judge it strictly on what is does.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2004-12-14 7:39:38 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2004-12-14 7:39:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Sock
Its more than just a word. They have numerous and detailed tractates on how to practice taqiyya (I should have said it was tactical lying to advance Islam as opposed to tactical lying to, say, selling real estate seminars like we have in this country).
Posted by mhw 2004-12-14 8:01:06 PM||   2004-12-14 8:01:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 
Islam is the most misunderstood religion in the United States
Bzzzzt! Wrong answer.

At least some of us understand Islam exactly.

Oh, wait.... Maybe that's his objection.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-12-14 9:16:11 PM||   2004-12-14 9:16:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 mhw, lying to sell real estate will get you disbarred. Agents can't even not ask certain questions any more, as the answers must be documented. The only thing that can happen is that the buyer is so eager for the property that she accepts certain concerns "as is". At least in the great state of Ohio, anyway.
Posted by trailing wife 2004-12-14 9:30:18 PM||   2004-12-14 9:30:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 no mention of that recent death in the back bedroom or crack in the slab? Termites? Lose your license. Tell a lie to Infidels? Priceless...
Posted by Frank G  2004-12-14 9:41:38 PM||   2004-12-14 9:41:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 A bunch of jihadists attack you country repeatedly and kill more than 3000 people. They have been involved in just about every terrorist activity that has occurred in the past 25-30 years. Every time you hear anything about Muslims they are killing someone in the world. WHAT THE HELL IS IT THAT THE MUSLIMS WANT US TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE MISUNDERSTAND? Seems to me the message is pretty clear, there is a concerted effort on the part of Muslims to take over the world and make it over in their image.
Posted by John Q. Citizen 2004-12-14 10:44:15 PM||   2004-12-14 10:44:15 PM|| Front Page Top

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