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2016-11-26 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

Sea ice about the same as in Sir Ernest Shackleton's 1917 expedition

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Posted by Besoeker 2016-11-26 03:19|| || Front Page|| [4 views ] Top

#1 A few months ago I read The Worst Journey in the World by Apsley Cherry-Garrard, who accompanied Scott on his push to the Pole, but who (among many) was not selected to go to the Pole itself (and so lived to tell the tale).

At one point, in a preliminary expedition, he and several other men camped on the sea ice, at a spot which you would have thought "as good as terra firma". Shackleton had had a depot nearby.

They woke in the middle of the night to find the ice cracking. One of their ponies was missing, having fallen into a crack that opened beneath him. The immediately scrambled to leave, their solid ice turning to ice floes, and the men barely got to solid ground in time. (There's a gripping bit about the ponies which I'll spare you.)

That vast shelf of solid, as they thought, ice had broken up and was swept out to sea within the course of a day or two. This suggests that maybe the extent of sea ice isn't as permanent or indicative a thing as the media believes.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2016-11-26 04:23|| 2016-11-26 04:23|| Front Page Top

#2 Shocked?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2016-11-26 08:21|| 2016-11-26 08:21|| Front Page Top

#3 This suggests that maybe the extent of sea ice isn't as permanent or indicative a thing as the media believes.

This could be said about anything sciencey that the media believes implicitly even as they report it entirely wrong.

Posted by trailing wife 2016-11-26 09:40|| 2016-11-26 09:40|| Front Page Top

#4 Shocked?

US news media trying to catch up with the Brits for hyperbole.

Posted by Pappy 2016-11-26 10:09|| 2016-11-26 10:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Scientists were not shocked, because they understand the science is not settled. Global warming alarmists were disappointed, though.

Posted by Bobby 2016-11-26 12:21|| 2016-11-26 12:21|| Front Page Top

#6 Not surprising. It will grow and shrink in cycles along with the warming and cooling cycles in the area.

Just like everywhere else in the world.

Posted by DarthVader 2016-11-26 12:43|| 2016-11-26 12:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Consensusy Science™. Who needs data?

Posted by Frank G 2016-11-26 13:09|| 2016-11-26 13:09|| Front Page Top

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