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2013-11-25 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Dershowitz: Iran Nukes Would Mark 'Neville Chamberlain Moment' for Obama

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Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2013-11-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views ] Top

#1 OOOOOOO - so close but yet so far. No McDonald's McRib meal promo for Alan today.

IMO the real litmus test will be China - clearly the Iran deal is meant, among other, to help the Dems in 2014 Midterms [2016?]. HOW OBAMA HANDLES HIS "RED LINES" VEE CHINA IN ECS + SCS MAY INSPIRE [or Not?] SOON-TO-BE-NUKULAAR RADICAL ISLAM + JIHADIS.

Given the post-2015 or 2017 "sea change(s)" that could occur in Amerika due to ...

* Immigration reform affecting up to alleged 25.0-45.0Milyuhn illegals - you know, "11.0Milyuhn" as per the official Fed-Govt. figures. BY EXTENS ALSO PRO-VS-ANTI-ILLEGAL BORDER SECURITY.
* PROPOSED BUDGET-DEBT BUSTING, ANTI-SEQUESTER NEW QES FOR 2014. "Debt Ceiling(s)" as defined to become all but absolutely irrelevant or meaningless.
* CUBA = The Bammer has said he wants to achieve new rapprochement, better relations wid Uncles Fidel + Raul. PUERTO RICO HAS GONE THROUGH EIGHT YEARS OF BACK-TO-BACK RECESSIONS.

IRAN = ASSADIAN SYRIA = RELATIVELY SAFE THRU SUMMER 2014 IN MINIMA AS LONG AS NEW AGREEMENTS ARE BEING FOLLOWED, unless somebody does something really stupid ...

Whomever GOP,Dem is POTUS after Jan 2017 will inherit an Amerika in horrendous debt, + quite possibly in realistic GeoPol retreat/fallback all around the world.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-11-25 01:00|| 2013-11-25 01:00|| Front Page Top

#2 Dershowitz is so smart.

The rest of us rubes and proles view the Obama presidency as one long "Chamberlain moment".

Posted by badanov 2013-11-25 01:26|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2013-11-25 01:26|| Front Page Top

#3 I'll say again old Neville was at least trying to rearm when talking whereas our beast continues to look to cut ever more from defense.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-11-25 08:00|| 2013-11-25 08:00|| Front Page Top

#4 Obama is working on his legacy. It will be assured--south of Carter's and Warren G. Harding territory.

Posted by JohnQC 2013-11-25 09:27|| 2013-11-25 09:27|| Front Page Top

#5 My morning news people were acting a bit surprised at having to defend this act. I'm not sure if that was part of the script, or if like most people a 3am "Sign the treaty to find out what is in it" surprised them in the pre-cast run-through.

Posted by swksvolFF 2013-11-25 09:44|| 2013-11-25 09:44|| Front Page Top

#6 Wag the dog.

I'm pretty sure Neville signed the danged thing because he knew the pulse of the landscape. The disarmament movement was in full flower, the leftists and liberals were saying "anything but war", and the communists were everywhere trying to undermine capitalism.

At least, I believe Chamberlain had a good idea that Hitler could not be trusted but the old French, the sissified Vichy French, not the NEW French leading us around on a leash dragging us into doing the right thing, pretty well handcuffed the Brits, what were they to do?

He had the common sense to crank up arms production and start calling up conscripts for a larger British Army.

The trouble is, I don't think Kerry, Obama, or Biden even comprehend that Rouhani and the boys, just bent them over the table and didn't even kiss them or pat them on the butt when it was over.

This treaty essentially brings war to the middle east.

Posted by Bill Clinton 2013-11-25 10:52|| 2013-11-25 10:52|| Front Page Top

#7 Meanwhile somewhere in the Great Beyond James Buchanan is crossing his fingers and thinking please, please, OH PLEASE!

Posted by Snavise Cholurt4299 2013-11-25 12:16|| 2013-11-25 12:16|| Front Page Top

Posted by Jerkface Killa 2013-11-25 18:25|| 2013-11-25 18:25|| Front Page Top

#9 Will no one rid me of this troublesome troll?

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2013-11-25 18:36|| 2013-11-25 18:36|| Front Page Top

#10 DAILY STAR LEBANON > US-IRAN THAW STARTS TO RESHAPE MIDEAST POWER.

In favor of IRAN.

* MEMRI.ORG > [Iraq-based Al-Muktar Army founder] IRAQI SHIITE LEADER WATHEG AL-BATTAT: I WILL SUPPORT IRAN IN A WAR AGZ IRAQ; IRAN IS A SUPERPOWER THAT CAN OVERCOME 15 SUPERPOWERS, WITH CELLS THROUGHOUT THE REGION + INFLUENCE FROM CHINA TO THE US, WE CONTROL 23,000 MARTYRDOM SEEKERS.

* WAFF > [JPost] [Israeli DM Moshe Y. TO US SecDef Hagel] YA'ALON: NUCLEAR IRAN COULD PLANT "DIRTY BOMB" ANYWHERE IN WEST.

ARTIC > ISRAEL = IRAN desires to promote Terror [Nuke Terrorism, WMDS?] activities under the protection = cover of a Nuclear Umbrella.

* WORLD NEWS > [BBC] IRAN SANCTIONS COULD BE LIFTED IN DECEMBER - [French FM] FABIUS.

* WORLD NEWS > LEBANON TURNING INTO BATTLEGROUND BETWEEN ISLAMISTS, AL-QAEDA, + JIHADISTS.

[MACAULAY "SAY IT TAINT SO" CAULKIN CUTE SLAPPY FACE here].

* JAPAN TIMES > IMPERFECT NUCLEAR DEAL IS THE US' "LEAST BAD" OPTION.

The US is repor concerned about Al-Qaeda affiliates setting up in Lebanon - In sum, THE BAMMER WOULD HAVE HAD TO BREAK HIS PLEDGE TO BRING US TROOPS HOME FROM AFGHANIS OR AFPAK, AS OPPOS TO RE-DEPLOYING THESE SAME + ADDITIONAL MAJOR GROUND COMBAT FORCES + SUPPORT INSTEAD TO T-H-R-E-E DIFFERENT MIDDLE EAST COUNTRIES.

IMO this interim nuke deal is notsomuch about Iran's NucProgs, but more about what Shia Iran can do to help to contain or destroy Al-Qaeda + foreign Militant groups now establishing themselves in + around the [Eastern] Mediterranean region.

VERSUS

* DAILY STAR LEBANON > WEAK AT HOME, FRANCE SEEKS [Foreign Policy-led] GRANDEUR ABROAD.

The Bammer is seemingly doing the same thing, but beneath the surface may covertly going for a OWG Amerika weak both at home as well as overseas.

* SAME > GULF STATES CLOSER TO DEVELOPING THEIR OWN NUCLEAR PROGRAMS.

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > SAUDI ARABIA WILL NOT SIT IDLY BY IFF THE WEST FAILS WID IRAN.

To stop AL-Qaeda, etal = Future Jihad agz Europe, etal, IFF THE USA = BAMMERIKA CAN TOLERATE A NUCLEAR SHIA IRAN, TO INCLUDE AS POTENS OWG "CO-SUPERPOWER", CAN IT DO ALSO FOR NON-SHIA OR MAJOR NON-SHIA SUNNI MUSLIM NATIONS???

* RELATED? WORLD MILITARY FORUM > US, EUROPEAN MEDIAS: US MUST NOT BE DRAGGED INTO SINO-JAPANESE MILITARY CONFLICT OVER DIAOYU ISLANDS. US INTERVENTION OVER DISPUTED ISLANDS DOES NOT MATCH OR SATISFY US INTERESTS.

FYI MILBLOGGERS = Many believe the US = Bammerika will NOT intervene in ECS [andor SCS] agz China unless ally Japan per se is at threat of de facto Chinese PLA invasion + occupation???

* JAPAN TIMES > US PUSHING NEW TRADE DEALS [Trans-Pac, Trans-Atlantic] AT EXPENSE OF NATIONAL SOVEREIGNTY.

Yeeeuuup - "Borderless", anti-sovereign Amerika starting in 2015 or ASAP after.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-11-25 21:41|| 2013-11-25 21:41|| Front Page Top

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