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2019-11-12 Home Front: Politix

Democrats have a Colonel Vindman problem

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Posted by Besoeker 2019-11-12 00:38|| || Front Page|| [14 views ] Top

#1 Splain to me why/how he was listening to the call?

Posted by Varmint Splat1454 2019-11-12 01:21|| 2019-11-12 01:21|| Front Page Top

#2 those who have taken the trouble to read the 340-page document will ~~have a different picture~~ not be heard.

Posted by Glenmore 2019-11-12 01:24|| 2019-11-12 01:24|| Front Page Top

#3 Complete and Utter Shitshow.

Democracy Dies in Shit[show]

Posted by Lex 2019-11-12 07:16|| 2019-11-12 07:16|| Front Page Top

#4 One of the most ludicrous assertions to come out of The Shitshow is the day-is-night, up-is-down, barking mad notion that Trump is doing Putin's bidding in Poland and Ukraine. In reality it was Zero who promised Putin & Medvedev, in person, in March 2012 that he would not sell Patriot missiles to Poland as promised.

Here's our self-labeled "most knowledgeable" Ukraine "expert's" less-than-expert testimony about the history of Javelin anti-tank missile sales to Ukraine - from the article:

Vindman had other blind spots, as well. One important example concerned U.S. provision of so-called lethal aid to Ukraine, specifically anti-tank missiles known as Javelins. The Obama administration famously refused to provide Javelins or other lethal aid to Ukraine, while the Trump administration reversed that policy, sending a shipment of missiles in 2018. On the Trump-Zelensky call, the two leaders discussed another shipment in the future.

"Both those parts of the call, the request for investigation of Crowd Strike and those issues, and the request for investigation of the Bidens, both of those discussions followed the Ukraine president saying they were ready to buy more Javelins. Is that right?" asked Schiff.

"Yes," said Vindman.

"There was a prior shipment of Javelins to Ukraine, wasn't there?" said Schiff.

"So that was, I believe — I apologize if the timing is incorrect — under the previous administration, there was a — I'm aware of the transfer of a fairly significant number of Javelins, yes," Vindman said.

Vindman's timing was incorrect. Part of the entire Trump-Ukraine story is the fact that Trump sent the missiles while Obama did not. The top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council did not seem to know that.

Posted by Lex 2019-11-12 07:26|| 2019-11-12 07:26|| Front Page Top

#5 ^ The Deep State, famous for its pseudo-experts' shallowness and unbelievable ignorance about anything outside the Beltway or unrelated to insider politics

Posted by Lex 2019-11-12 07:28|| 2019-11-12 07:28|| Front Page Top

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