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2003-11-07 Home Front

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Posted by Alex 2003-11-07 8:18:35 PM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Your selling your story to NBC and even have a book deal on this, yet the US military is wrong for taping this? Did it ever occur to you that maybe taping was part of US military procedure? You're helping publish a book with information about how you were raped!

I'm caught between sympathy and disgust right now. Especially when they're is a logical explanation to the Army taping the rescue.

Posted by Charles 2003-11-7 10:47:13 PM|| 2003-11-7 10:47:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Yeah, I suspect that type of mission is ALWAYS taped. Kinda like a professional football team taping the game and using it to critique their performance later.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2003-11-7 10:52:36 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2003-11-7 10:52:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Charles, I'm caught between laughing and puking brother....

Heck gents, interesting question of why was it taped? I assume they were looking for evidence of her friends who were also in that ambush. Probably took the camera a long to get "evidence" of their demise, bodies or what not in the hospital. They probably figured if they couldn't bring back the bodies that night or in the future at least get the footage. I'd like to see the whole tape. Maybe their whole intention was video taping her rescue, as far as they knew she could've been dead.

I agree with her about the "fighting to the last round" story, that infuriated me - listening to people's rumors and knowing in my gut its bullshit. Shit, I could've told anybody there was no way she fought to the last round - she'd be dead. I remember all these soccer mom's back home saying she shot all her rounds off and killed Iraqi's - blah - obviously needing a sweet-heart hero to identify with. I remember saying, Ma'am, that girl probably got knocked out the back of a 5-ton that got whacked by enemy fire. (Female U.S. Army supply clerk from a supply unit - do the math lady - no I'm not a sexist just speaking from experience). I feel bad for her but I doubted at the time the hollywood hype version story was legit whatsoever. Way too good to be true.

OTOH - "said there was no reason for her rescue from an Iraqi hospital to be filmed. âItâs wrong,â she said.

See my statement above - the spec ops/higher command may have had another reason. If she's still in the Army she's in no position to question her command. They got her out safe - case closed. Yes baby Jessica it is all about you isn't it? I'd be one happy Marine to see my bro's pulling my sorry ass outta the shit. Put that on M-TV, let everyone see me on a stretcher black & blue, broken boned, ass raped - I don't give a flyin' f*ck. I'm back w/my Marines, free, that's all that matters. Apparently lost on her.

"They used me as a way to symbolize all this stuff,"

Boo fucking hoo. Bunch of good guys risked their necks getting her ass outta there. Take the college free ride, bank the book deal & movie money, but be grateful. Otherwise those of us still serving will just tell her to shut the f*ck up.

Sorry for the exceptionally strident tone of my post to the rest of you. These things are a hot button issue for me.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-8 12:22:15 AM|| 2003-11-8 12:22:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Hero to zero, that's the way I feel about this. It was not the miilitary who spread the story about her fighting to the last round, it was the media. For her to turn her back on those who rescued her, in order to get the book deal is just disgusting.

The heros are the ones, Iraqi and American, who risked their necks to save her. She's just an unfortunate victim of circumstance. I don't wish her ill will, or expect her to be superhuman. But a hero, she's not.

Posted by B 2003-11-8 7:49:53 AM|| 2003-11-8 7:49:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 hero to zero...continued. Let me just add that, despite the fact that, from the beginning, it became clear that she was just a victim of circumstance, she was a hero to me for fighting for her country and suviving against all odds.

Posted by B 2003-11-8 7:54:15 AM|| 2003-11-8 7:54:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 hero to zero...continued. Let me just add that, despite the fact that, from the beginning, it became clear that she was just a victim of circumstance, she was a hero to me for fighting for her country and suviving against all odds.

I admire her for surviving. But I admire those who made that possible, much more.

Posted by B 2003-11-8 7:56:26 AM|| 2003-11-8 7:56:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 She is just a kid caught up in something that she isn't prepared for. Some of what your hearing is guilt over surviving while her best friend and others got whacked. The bronze star didn't help; I doubt that was the idea of the military - some political punk cooked that one up.

The filming probably has gotten to her over time. On no hands I can count the number of times that I want to see myself as the subject of a strecher evac.

I imagine she has been changed politically by the views of her ghostwriter through prolonged exposure. A supply clerk is not really set up to fully understand the tooth portion of the military. I imagine her writer put some doubt into her head.

That said she is neither a hero nor a zero. She is a young lady illprepared to perform the function thrust upon her by the country's need of a hero. Best if she fades from public life and lives quietly.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-8 11:46:56 AM|| 2003-11-8 11:46:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 superH. Well said. It's just a shame, that's all. She'll spend her life justifying the fact that she turned her back on those who helped her. While I hope for her peace and happiness, I doubt that will be possible, no matter how true your words. She is a symbol of this war. It's just a different symbol than what it could have been.

You're absolutely right, she's not a zero, not by any means. Sadly, she'll be old and gray before she realizes how much that book deal really cost her.

Posted by B 2003-11-8 12:36:14 PM|| 2003-11-8 12:36:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Hope the guy she picked is a good egg. He has quite a few late nights coming.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-8 5:23:07 PM|| 2003-11-8 5:23:07 PM|| Front Page Top

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