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2006-11-28 Israel-Palestine-Jordan

Marzel: 'The PM is a traitor and an idiot'

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Posted by Fred 2006-11-28 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Marzel appears to be correct.

Posted by 3dc 2006-11-28 00:35|| 2006-11-28 00:35|| Front Page Top

#2 on both counts. J'accuse!

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-11-28 00:39|| 2006-11-28 00:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Adding in his previous incompetence with the Hezbo's, that's strike three.

Posted by Phineter Thraviger 2006-11-28 00:49|| 2006-11-28 00:49|| Front Page Top

#4 I think the poor fool has lost control of his senses. Or, he's been talking to Peres. same thing. This foolery has been done before. You got kicked smack in the jewels for the effort. Why repeat ? Are you masochistic ?

Posted by SpecOp35 2006-11-28 00:53|| 2006-11-28 00:53|| Front Page Top

#5 It's baffling, what does this tool think he is doing? A total failure to grasp reality must pervade his mind and the minds of those around him.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-11-28 01:11|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com] 2006-11-28 01:11|| Front Page Top

#6 By Einstein's definition, the current Israeli leaders are completely insane. They continue to do the same thing, over and over, expecting a different result. Why are they still in power?

Posted by PBMcL 2006-11-28 01:32|| 2006-11-28 01:32|| Front Page Top

#7 Okay, let me get this straight.

Israel has been under siege, literally since day 1 -- that's two generations now -- by armed thugs who repeatedly declare their intention to conquer the whole of Israel, killing every last Jew in the process. These thugs have backed up those declarations with several real and bloody attempts that could well have succeeded if Arabs had any skill, or if Israelis did not.

When conventional means failed to conquer Israel and drive the Jews into the sea, these thugs switched over to terrorist tactics that have killed thousands of Israelis (not to mention their own). Indiscriminate guerilla warfare continues against Israeli persons on Israeli soil no matter what Israel does or doesn't do.

After 30 years, it is abundantly, incontrovertibly clear, by Paleos' word and deed, that their problem is that Israel exists.

I can *almost* understand not being able to see this, because for many years I didn't. One reason is that it's difficult for civilized people to grasp that a large number of people unabashedly want to see the Holocaust finished; and this is where I can *almost* see Olmert coming from.

Almost, because this refusal to acknowledge and confront evil, this naive moral optimism, was a huge contributing factor in the deaths of so many Jews. One would think that this lesson, still within living memory, would have to be the bare minimum requirement to hold office in Israel, right after having a pulse.

So in negotiating with Paleos (which is an idiotic idea to begin with, like negotiating with Nazis), do I understand correctly that Olmert thinks that some piece of land, that is less than the entire state of Israel, will actually end the jihad?

How can he, or any Israeli leader, not see that the only "deal" that will satisfy the Paleos is to hand over Israel in its entirety and pack every last Israeli off to some other corner of the world? In fact, I'm not sure anything less than total extermination would do it; and even then, the jihadis will only demand someone else's extermination next, like Hindus or Christians.

Am I missing something here? It's just impossible for me to grasp how Israel can simultaneously be surrounded on all sides for 60 years by frothing, armed, implacable assholes with plenty of foreign backing and a nearly limitless supply of expendable fighters -- yet here's Olmert, clinging to the delusion that some concession less than the total annihilation of his country and everyone in it will somehow magically bring peace.

Hmm. I guess that's why he's a traitor and an idiot.

Posted by exJAG 2006-11-28 07:28|| 2006-11-28 07:28|| Front Page Top

#8 "After 30 years, it is abundantly, incontrovertibly clear, by Paleos' word and deed, that their problem is that Israel exists."

No, exJAG, the problem is that the Paleos exist. What would happen if tomorrow Israel ceased to exist? Would the unified Gaza-West Bank-Israel as Judenrein 'Palestine' mean peace? Or just continued gang war with different victims?

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-11-28 07:40|| 2006-11-28 07:40|| Front Page Top

#9 Then the problem would revert to their history of colonialist occupation.

Posted by Fred 2006-11-28 07:47|| 2006-11-28 07:47|| Front Page Top

#10 I was discussing it only from the standpoint of Israel's defense, but yes, Glenmore, I agree. When I go beyond that and explore why Paleos have a problem with Israel's existence, I find the same putrid dung heap I always find when I go asking why: Islam.

Posted by exJAG 2006-11-28 07:57|| 2006-11-28 07:57|| Front Page Top

#11 Maybe he's trying for a Nobel Peace Prize. That usually requires acting against the interests of the US, Israel, and civilization in general.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2006-11-28 08:16|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2006-11-28 08:16|| Front Page Top

#12 Yep, exJag, root cause analysis leads to Islam.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-11-28 08:45|| 2006-11-28 08:45|| Front Page Top

#13 But isn't this the way with Leftists? If something does not work, obviously, either the wrong people were in charge or we just didn't do enough of what didn't work. It cannot possibly be that the idea is in error! Mentally retarded idiots, there should be a bounty on all Leftists.

Midnight basketball, anyone?

Posted by Mick Dundee 2006-11-28 09:55|| 2006-11-28 09:55|| Front Page Top

#14 Mentally retarded idiots, there should be a bounty on all Leftists.

Coming soon to a theater near you.

Posted by SR-71 2006-11-28 10:46|| 2006-11-28 10:46|| Front Page Top

#15 The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results....

Liberals are truly insane.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2006-11-28 13:55|| 2006-11-28 13:55|| Front Page Top

#16 "It's just impossible for me to grasp how Israel can simultaneously be surrounded on all sides for 60 years by frothing, armed, implacable assholes with plenty of foreign backing and a nearly limitless supply of expendable fighters -- yet here's Olmert, clinging to the delusion that some concession less than the total annihilation of his country and everyone in it will somehow magically bring peace."

Yeah, I don't get it either. Here, Hillary Clinton wants to go and "talk" to the Iranians--like it would make a difference. Wonder how she'll feel after kissing Iranian ass.

Posted by MagnonMan 2006-11-28 16:04|| 2006-11-28 16:04|| Front Page Top

#17 Here, Hillary Clinton wants to go and "talk" to the Iranians--like it would make a difference. Wonder how she'll feel after kissing Iranian ass.

Better get used to it boys and girls. It's what Democrats do.

Posted by SR-71 2006-11-28 17:23|| 2006-11-28 17:23|| Front Page Top

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