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2006-11-28 Iraq
More on the Downed F-16
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Posted by Glenmore 2006-11-28 09:30|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 ...Al-jizz is saying now it was shot down by the bad guyz. If that's the case, then the gloves need to fu*king come off, and NOW. The only place they could have gotten man-portable SAMS is from Syria and Iran.
Kill a few of their airplanes and see what they think.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-11-28 09:41||   2006-11-28 09:41|| Front Page Top

#2 See following storeeeeee Mike.

/naw
Posted by Shipman 2006-11-28 09:56||   2006-11-28 09:56|| Front Page Top

#3 From the NY Times
U.S. forces investigating the crash of a single-seat Air Force jet in Iraq said that insurgents reached the site before American forces could and the pilot remains missing.

Videotape pictures obtained by Associated Press Television News appear to show the wreckage of the F-16CG jet in the farm field where it crashed Monday and the remains of a U.S. serviceman with a tangled parachute nearby.

Al-Jazeera satellite television showed similar pictures on Monday, but declined to include the scenes of the dead pilot, saying they were too graphic to air.
Posted by Slaviger Angomong7708 2006-11-28 10:01||   2006-11-28 10:01|| Front Page Top

#4 From Voice of the Baath AP:
Videotape pictures obtained by Associated Press Television News appear to show the wreckage of the F-16CG jet in the farm field where it crashed Monday and the remains of a U.S. serviceman with a tangled parachute nearby.

Not likely shot down. The F-16CGs use the LANTIRN targeting pods and the pilot was up there at 20,000 ft looking for suspicious activity, waiting for a ground support mission. My guess is engine failure and the pilot punched out.
Posted by ed 2006-11-28 10:04||   2006-11-28 10:04|| Front Page Top

#5 Take the gloves off anyway and give the "religion of peace" a dam good slapping
Posted by alex 2006-11-28 10:06||   2006-11-28 10:06|| Front Page Top

#6 Ed,
I'm familiar with LANTIRN, and that would make sense but our news folks are specifically reporting 'strafing run', so at this point I'm not sure what he was up to.
(SECOND THOUGHT) ...Even Fox might call a bomb run from 20K feet strafing...

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-11-28 11:33||   2006-11-28 11:33|| Front Page Top

#7 ...Am hearing now that it's a bird from the 27FW/524 FS at Cannon AFB, NM.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-11-28 11:45||   2006-11-28 11:45|| Front Page Top

#8 MK

/rant
Take a breath - you sound silly with the "gloves off" comment. Nothing will happen. Do you honestly believe we would attack Iran or Syria over 1 pilot? No.

We're buying time and sacrificing our guys so W and his cronies can save face and "stay the course" I was a huge supporter of him before and at the beginning of the war but have lost all respect and trust of him and his circle. They are after all politicians, and politicians are the same regardless of the letter R or D before their name. They have surrounded themselves with military "Yes" men who at that level are only politicians with ribbons on their chest.

This thing could have been won decisively, but the will from the government as a whole is complacency and apathy - the "not my fault or problem, I just work here attitude."

They have already achieved their goal and do not know what to do now. W went in there to get Saddam because Saddam tried to kill his dad. Well, "Mission Accomplished". Now what changes have you seen since then? None. Our guys go out on patrol, get shot at and IED'd, and go back behind the wire - repeat and repeat. The Iraqis are finally free to settle their generational blood fueds and the media gets hyper.

Anyone who follows events must have questioned why we went after Saddam instead of Iran - who was openly developing nuke tech. and funds most of the ME terrorist orgs. It made absolutely no sense.

Iran has masterfully played its position and you have to give them credit. They are better at this then we are. They sat on the side, trained bad guys and observed us in Iraq to learn our strenghs and weaknesses, getting closer everyday to nukes, still keeping Israel busy in Lebonon and Gaza, Getting tight with the North Koreans and Chavez (both of who can keep us distracted or tied down at a moments notice with a nod from Iran) and are finally getting a brother Shia government in Iraq, courtesy of W.

We won't do anything because we can't do anything. Yes, we can bomb them but we cannot hold the groud there. If we bomb them, I'm sure N Korea will pull something, Venz. may stop oil imports trying to affect our economy, and the Euros will go goofy - the Coalition of the Willing nonesense will not work this go around. But what has really been accomplished other then bombing some sites? The Iranians will be the Islamic world hero.

It all comes down to politics. W is a lame duck and a lame duck will not/cannot do anything. The incoming party, more likely democrate at this point because of W, will not do anything because they don't want too and Iran will have Iraq under its influence, nukes, and world sympathy on their side because they are a "victim" of us.

(like any of this rant matters one bit)
//rant
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2006-11-28 12:35||   2006-11-28 12:35|| Front Page Top

#9 This Vid waz available since yesterday

note the fat putz in Arab Hermaphrodite-pajamas doing the cultural flip flop [shoe] thang
Posted by RD 2006-11-28 12:44||   2006-11-28 12:44|| Front Page Top

#10 Yosemite Sam-
No offense taken, but the F-16 community is near and dear to my heart, having spent 6 years of my career with the 8TFW in Korea and the 20FW in SC. I would have liked very much to go medieval on both those countries before - now, to a certain extent, it's personal.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2006-11-28 13:32||   2006-11-28 13:32|| Front Page Top

#11 Good to see you YS. You've been missed.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-11-28 16:02||   2006-11-28 16:02|| Front Page Top

#12 Mike
Glad to know you weren't offended. It really frustrates me knowing high quality people are paying the ultimate price while politicians play their games. They are just repeating history and making the same mistakes.

Nimble Spemble - thanks. I'm always checking this site out - just lurking in the shadows and reading others input.
Posted by Yosemite Sam 2006-11-28 17:11||   2006-11-28 17:11|| Front Page Top

#13 F-16. The "Lawn Dart".
Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2006-11-28 17:57||   2006-11-28 17:57|| Front Page Top

#14 Yosemite,
Right on target. It's a damn shame it has turned into this mess, but I agree with you 100%.
Posted by SpecOp35 2006-11-28 18:25||   2006-11-28 18:25|| Front Page Top

#15 I'm not a military type so I don't know. Why don't we send in about 30 copters and enough warthogs to recover a guy like this? Or am I missing something.
Posted by bigjim-ky 2006-11-28 18:26||   2006-11-28 18:26|| Front Page Top

#16 bigjim - that might offend someone. We wouldn't want to hurt anybody's whittle feelings.....
Posted by CrazyFool 2006-11-28 18:57||   2006-11-28 18:57|| Front Page Top

#17 All of you should check out irandefence.net and read the arrogance writers and their little posts.

I'm not sure if this is a website out of Iran or based in the US and drawing on the usual Fifth Columnists including Iranians living here who need to be deported soon. I recommend a slow moving, leaky boat to China.

These guys are full of piss and vinegar (and bloodcurling anti-Jewish hatred). They're so confident in Iran's conventional military capabilities that they're taunting and itching for a fight.

This of course is what happens when we pussyfoot around: Our enemies grow a pair, gain some chest hairs, and suddenly think they can defeat us. But then again, when Mooky al-Tatar Tot is still alive and President Gimple is asking Iran and Syria to help out in Iraq, we shouldn;t be surprised.

Posted by Lancasters Over Dresden 2006-11-28 19:59|| http://www.michaelcalderonscall.com]">[http://www.michaelcalderonscall.com]  2006-11-28 19:59|| Front Page Top

#18 Big Jim, There are SAR teams out there. The execution time line of the mission depends on distances. It can take an hour somtimes for the SAR teams to reach a site. Supporting jet aircraft is difficult due to the great distances they can travel. I'm am a bit surprised there was not an A10 closeby to buy time for the crew member until the SAR team could arrive. I hope this guy was killed from the ejection and not on the ground. God bless him and his family.
Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan  2006-11-28 20:05||   2006-11-28 20:05|| Front Page Top

#19 Aren't there Geneva Convention requirements for the repatriation, or at least proper handling, of remains? If so, where are all the tranzis screaming about the need to stick to the GCs?
Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford  2006-11-28 21:35|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-11-28 21:35|| Front Page Top

#20 Agree wid #4 ED, as based of current TV footage.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-11-28 22:32||   2006-11-28 22:32|| Front Page Top

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