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2006-11-25 Southeast Asia

Terrorists in southern Thailand burn teacher alive

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Posted by RD 2006-11-25 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This crap has been going on since before I lived in Thailand back in the 60s & 70s. Great press now with the reporting of supressed muslims worlwide. The answer? I don't know but Slobodon Milsovec comes to mind.

Posted by Bobibutu 2006-11-25 01:55|| 2006-11-25 01:55|| Front Page Top

#2 Learning is unislamic. Only rote memorazation of the (offical Saudi) koran in Arabic is permitted. Anyone going against this must be killed. OED.

We are going to be reaching a point where it will be them or us very soon, sooner than I though even. They refuse to moderate their religious practices and thought to comport with this century. The only other knowledge they are allowed is that of how to use weapons to bring about a world wide calphite . Convert, submit or die.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-11-25 02:10|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com] 2006-11-25 02:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Everybody knows what must be done, even the fools and tools. This is in the King's lap, his call, and the Thais will follow his lead. So will he lead is what remains. This murder should be gruesome enough (any murder should be, but people are freaks) to get a response. If not, then Thailand is lost - at least as long as Bhumibol lives.

I've been gone for almost 3 years, so my info may be out of date, but... His son, from all accounts from my Thai friends in Chiang Mai, is an ass and the people know it. His daughter, however, is a public-spirited class act and is revered. Succession goes to the son, traditionally, but there was talk while I was there that the people would like to see it ignored in favor of the daughter.

So if Bhumibols doesn't respond and his son takes over, then Thailand is truly screwed.

Posted by .com 2006-11-25 03:55|| 2006-11-25 03:55|| Front Page Top

#4 Sadily - I agree.

Posted by Bobibutu 2006-11-25 04:00|| 2006-11-25 04:00|| Front Page Top

#5 Judging by the stamps on my passport, I have been to Thailand at least 40 times. I have also been to Malaysia and Indonesia many times.

Bottom line is I found Thais, with very few exceptions, honest, trustworthy and most importantly they get civil society.

I can't say the same about Malaysia and Indonesia.

Posted by phil_b 2006-11-25 06:08|| 2006-11-25 06:08|| Front Page Top

#6 I couldn't agree more, phil_b. Thailand is the one place I would seriously consider settling in, outside of the US. If they hadn't become insanely greedy under Toxin, regards exPats, I probably would have done so - but he instituted a whole mess of rapidly-changing schemes meant to enrich the Thai Govt and screw any exPat with the requisite cash who wanted to stay there.

It was remarkably self-defeating - I (and many thousands of others like me) am not there spending my money any more - and never will be again. Thailand's loss - people like me were pure profit, there was zero outlay for services while I spent freely to their benefit.

It defines stupid - and is yet another of the reasons I believe we should implement a simple foreign policy of precisely reciprocal treatment (visas, freedom, taxes, etc) with each country.

"Thailand's three predominately Muslim southernmost provinces have been increasingly restive the past three years..."

Islam. They move in and, when they reach critical mass, they do the usual Muzzy thing...

If they perceive strength in the host, they whine and wheedle and bitch and moan and seethe about their "rights", at least as far as the host's system offers - something only their imams may have granted them in the shitholes they came from. They settle in enclaves and refuse to assimilate. They agitate for implementation of their barbaric traditions. It is a lethal camel's nose under the tent: a tumor. It will appear benign until it feels it has won the PR war and has the authorities on the run. Example: France. Soon: Canada. Later: US.

When they perceive weakness in the host, they use violence and intimidation - then whine and bitch and demand their "rights" to implement their shit, a direct appeal to the elitists who always love the "quaint" and "exotic". The tumor is obviously malignant. Excise with extreme prejudice and cauterize - or submit. Example: Thailand, much of Africa.

Wherever they have ever held power, they resort to open warfare if opposed. Example: Afghanistan.

To any who still refuse to give up their comfy world view that Islam can be dealt with, can be mollified, can peacefully coexist with any other culture, can be reformed or neutralized - short of a total and effective quarantine or eradication - I suggest heavy medication or voluntary admission to a mental care facility... spreading your Pollyanna self-delusion is as dangerous as Islam. Islam defines implacable. It is a virulent merciless relentless human infection, a pathogen fatal to freedom, and should be dealt with as such.

Posted by .com 2006-11-25 08:30|| 2006-11-25 08:30|| Front Page Top

#7 There's a story posted at Jihad Watch this morning concerning Thailand. This latest murder of the school principal got somebody's attention in the Dept. of Education. The Thai gov't has ordered the closing of 300 schools in the southern provinces effective Monday. Duration: indefinite.

Islam.

.com: could you expand on your point above concerning the King's son. Why is he thought to be an ass by the people? What are your friends saying about him?

Posted by Mark Z 2006-11-25 09:01|| 2006-11-25 09:01|| Front Page Top

#8 Mark Z - What I've heard is that he's a playboy / drunk / gambler / profligate loser. A classic "prince", in other words.

Pix and Wiki on Bhumibol & family.

Posted by .com 2006-11-25 09:23|| 2006-11-25 09:23|| Front Page Top

#9 Note that the prince isn't even named in the pix link. He's just "Prince". Mistake? Uh uh.

Posted by .com 2006-11-25 09:30|| 2006-11-25 09:30|| Front Page Top

#10 Sure hope he doesn't have big ears and is a closet muzzie.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-11-25 09:37|| 2006-11-25 09:37|| Front Page Top

#11 #6
What are the new Thai regulations regarding ex-pats that has discouraged you from living in Thailand?

Posted by Clolutle Slans5753 2006-11-25 09:48|| 2006-11-25 09:48|| Front Page Top

#12 The visa laws have changed so dramatically over the last 5 years it's amazing - and it is far more complex than I'd like to engage in here. If you're interested, you can get infor from the Thai Govt site, but note that:

1) even the 30-day visas (Transit - used to be 15) and 60-day (Tourist - used to be 30) are not as advertised - don't apply to US which is limited to 30 and they do not allow consecutive entry (i.e. leave country, re-enter, get new 30 day visa) - you have to stay out for 30 days to re-enter under either, last I heard - and they are not easily extended, anymore...

2) almost every "program" has undergone changes in the last year or two. So you can make plans to day and find it's obsolete before you can complete the paperwork.

Since I have been gone for 3 years, I'll wager that the schemes have changed numerous times since I last tangled with them. What they are pushing is the OA Visa - expensive, one year duration, requires proof of significant income, and that a substantial amount be depositied in Thai bank, etc.

Posted by .com 2006-11-25 10:02|| 2006-11-25 10:02|| Front Page Top

#13 BTW, CS5753, if this is a disingenuous attempt to argue with me, let me save you the trouble: fuck off. There are 50 message boards where this shit has been fought over and about for the last 5 or 6 years, lol. I don't need the BS. :-)

If not, if you are interested in Thailand yourself, please enjoy your research and Good Luck with my Best Wishes. I love the Thais - and no, I don't mean chasing the ladies. I gave that up over a decade ago and don't go to BKK anymore - I prefer Chiang Mai for the greenery, mountains, cooler climate, much lower traffic, etc -- but the same wonderful people and food.

Posted by .com 2006-11-25 10:08|| 2006-11-25 10:08|| Front Page Top

#14 When several ~~dozen~~ imams die amidst the blazing walls of their mosques each time a peaceful Thai is murdered, things might change. The current level of appeasement issuing forth from their government is guaranteed to do only one thing, make things worse ... much worse.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2006-11-25 15:55|| 2006-11-25 15:55|| Front Page Top

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