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2004-11-21 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

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Posted by Fred 2004-11-21 8:10:13 AM|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 dailytimes appears to be down

Posted by Frank G 2004-11-21 8:16:33 AM|| 2004-11-21 8:16:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 So the NYT is offering foreign policy advice and a Paki paper picks up on it?
Wow they're both so credible. Guess they're afraid the Mad Cowboy might actually decide to solve another problem.

Posted by JerseyMike 2004-11-21 8:17:06 AM|| 2004-11-21 8:17:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I've been having trouble getting my Daily Times fix lately. They seem to be having server problems.

Posted by Fred 2004-11-21 8:28:11 AM|| 2004-11-21 8:28:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Article: While admitting that a nuclear-armed Iran run by its current brand of extremists, who have twisted religion to support terrorism, would be a cause for real concern, the leading article said cautioned against a âmilitary solution,â pointing out that Iranâs scattered and secretive nuclear programme cannot be bombed out of existence. âAnd even if the United States had not stretched its military to the limit in Iraq, invading Iran, a country of nearly 70 million people, would be a catastrophic mistake.

Liberal shibboleth after liberal shibboleth - this is the kind of crap that the NYT is known for. We may not be able to completely destroy the program, but we can set it back - destroying 70% of it is a good start, and we can always go for a second round of bombings. We don't have to invade Iran to destroy the program - the Air Force is certainly capable of flattening Iran's air force and destroying its conventional military, opening the way to continual bombing raids until Iran stops working on nukes. What the press isn't highlighting is that the reason we are taking casualties in Iraq isn't because of bad planning - it is because we failed to destroy Iraq's army, thinking that forbearance would bring us goodwill. I don't think we'll make the same mistake in Iran.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-11-21 10:44:12 AM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2004-11-21 10:44:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 We cannot afford to make the same mistake in Iran that we made TWICE in Iraq. The Iranian Republican Guards needs to be taken out early...and in their entirety. And the rest of the military so degraded that they cannot offer resistance to us, or to the Iranian people when they (hopefully) rise up and kick their mullahs out.

They're NOT going to like us anyway...I'd rather they did their DISliking while DISarmed.

Posted by Justrand 2004-11-21 2:01:36 PM|| 2004-11-21 2:01:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 To the NYT - a gratuitous assertion meets gratutious denial - yes it can be bombed out of existence. It must be, unless Iran takes the Libyan approach and decides to coexist. Iran does not have a roof over its house.

Posted by JP 2004-11-21 2:56:20 PM|| 2004-11-21 2:56:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Zhang Fei, the real mistake is allowing Iran's Islamic fanatical tyrants to gain the upper nuclear hand in the Middle-East. You know as well as everyone else Tehran's mullahs have sworn to destroy Israel, attempt to create a greater Shi'ite empire coupled with being behind the majority of attacks on Iraqi oil installations and pipelines. Unless the current dictatorship in Iran is totally removed, one way or the other, the mad men of Tehran are preaching suicidal jihadic warfare to their terrorist faithful and will use those nuclear weapons unless they are stopped cold. Appeasement does not function.

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-21 3:06:09 PM|| 2004-11-21 3:06:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 They're NOT going to like us anyway...I'd rather they did their DISliking while DISarmed.

Excellent summation, Justrand. The Iranians can dis us all they want but it will be done with a dysfunctional military. How it is possible for any other western government to take Iran seriously is testimony to the sort of voluntary blindness that will result in Eurabia.

Posted by Zenster 2004-11-21 5:40:44 PM|| 2004-11-21 5:40:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The Times seems to be saying that the best way to negotiate with Iran is to assure them that we will not resort to using our military power no matter what they do. That is stupid negotiating. Even if we concluded internally that military force would not be an effective option, what do we gain by telling the Iranians that that option is off the table? Telling the Iranians that we won't use force is the surest way to guarantee that we will have to use force, and in a pretty ugly way, too.

Posted by Matt 2004-11-21 5:45:56 PM|| 2004-11-21 5:45:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 They NYT versus WASHINGTON POST > post-Implosion, 1990's version of IZVESTIA vs ITAR-TASS or PRAVDA, with DAN RATHER/RATHER-GATE = RUSSIA's POSTNER. Add to the programming on Amerikan Socialist State TV vv the Hollywood Information Bureau -the Clinton-led DemsLeft is making sure America copies the FAILED USSR, now RUSSIA, NOT RUSSIA COPYING OR LEARNING FROM SUCCESFUL AMERICA!
*GORBACHEVISM = WEST BROUGHT DOWN TO THE STANDARDS OF THE EAST >/= "DUMBING DOWN" OF AMERICA, BY AMERICANS FOR AMERICANS AND WITHOUT ASKING AMERICANS.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2004-11-21 10:33:45 PM|| [http://n/a] 2004-11-21 10:33:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Fred - robotroll cleanup in aisle #10!

Posted by PBMcL 2004-11-21 11:30:42 PM|| 2004-11-21 11:30:42 PM|| Front Page Top

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