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2003-11-18 Britain

Guantanamo Bay detainee suffers from depression

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Posted by Steve 2003-11-18 9:43:59 AM|| || Front Page|| [11125 views since 2007-05-07] Top

Guantanamo Bay detainee suffers from depression

My depression just vanished.

Posted by ISLAM SUCKS 2003-11-18 9:53:33 AM|| 2003-11-18 9:53:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "It is not clear what exactly has made him overcome his mistrust and cooperate more fully with staff

"hmmmmmmmm gimme a green two yellows and a button and I'll tell ya about Dire Revenge VI."

Posted by Shipman 2003-11-18 10:01:57 AM|| 2003-11-18 10:01:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 so he's depressed. too bad. maybe he should have been taken out and shoot as a traitor early on. i'll bet that would have resolved his depression.

Posted by Anonymous 2003-11-18 10:02:10 AM|| 2003-11-18 10:02:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Boo-hoo. He is being denied the chance to martyr himself by strapping on a bomb and killing a few dozen infidels. I'm all torn up about it.

It's a real shock to these guys when they get caught and thrown in a cage, isn't it? They should have thought about the consequences before they picked up that AK.

Posted by Anonymous 2003-11-18 10:48:48 AM|| 2003-11-18 10:48:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 It's amazing what happy meals and added weight can do.

Posted by Anonymous 2003-11-18 10:52:54 AM|| 2003-11-18 10:52:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 POW's do not get lawyers, they do not go before military tribunrals or told the charges. They sit in a prisoner of war camp until the end of hostilities. The Bush Administration really blew it by calling them unlawful combatants rather than POWs because eventually they will have to have a trial if they are unlawful combatants.

As POWs of the Taliban they can be released to the new Afghanistani government as soon as combat in Afghanistan stops. If they served Al Queda they can be released as soon as Al Queda is destroyed or ends it war on the West.

Either case they better just get comfortable because they'll be waiting for a long time.

Posted by Yank 2003-11-18 10:57:26 AM|| 2003-11-18 10:57:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 The Bush Administration really blew it by calling them unlawful combatants rather than POWs

I think it's the other way around. By declaring them POWs, under the 3rd Geneva Convention, they are entitled to a trial as soon as possible. Declaring them enemy combatants, and holding them *not* on US soil, results in their legal status being undetermined, and they can be held for as long as anyone wants.

Posted by Rafael 2003-11-18 11:19:20 AM|| 2003-11-18 11:19:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Maybe a little electroshock therapy is in order?

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-11-18 11:52:52 AM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-11-18 11:52:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Depression, the silent disease. If you know someone who may be experiencing depression let them know, there is help available.

Posted by Lucky 2003-11-18 12:22:05 PM|| 2003-11-18 12:22:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Rafael, I think you have it backwards. POWs do not get a trial unless they commit a crime during captivity. The 3rd Geneva Convention pretty much defaults everyone to being a POW when in doubt, requiring a trial to determine their unlawful status.

The basic difference is unlawful combatants don't get to mingle with each other, plan mischief, and discuss what interogators want. All of which I agree with, but the US could declare them POWs now and avoid the required trial and still hold them until the end of hostilities.

The link beside my name goes to the text of the 3rd convention.Perhaps I'm wrong but I read through the thing and that's how I read it.

Posted by Yank 2003-11-18 1:07:35 PM|| [http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/0/6fef854a3517b75ac125641e004a9e68?OpenDocument] 2003-11-18 1:07:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Yank, I defer to your judgment on this one. Though I do think that the administration chose the term 'enemy combatants' precisely because the legal ambiguity (if there is one) gives them a lot of room to manoeuvre. That, along with Gitmo's undetermined status (SCOTUS is looking at that now) seemed like the logical step to take in the short run.

Posted by Rafael 2003-11-18 1:37:28 PM|| 2003-11-18 1:37:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Mr Abassi, from Croydon, south London, has been held for nearly two years, accused of being a terrorist, but has been denied access to a lawyer or other basic human rights.

Since when is access to a lawyer a "basic human right"??

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-11-18 2:03:05 PM|| 2003-11-18 2:03:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Damn, where'd that leetle violin go? I'm always losing that thing.

The only depression I want these guys to be in is the one they get to dig for themselves after we've finished picking their little pea-brans.

Posted by BH 2003-11-18 2:34:01 PM|| 2003-11-18 2:34:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Rafael, I agreed with the strategy initially, it was a smart short term strategy, but I think the strategy should be changed rather than go into trials. I'm pretty sure we've gotten everything useful out of them now, the only risk is allowing Al Queda to know who is alive and who is not.

To be honest I'm not sure how big a deal that is, perhaps its worth keeping them as Unlawful Combatants for awhile longer. Still, they should be rearranging Guantanimo to look and act more like a POW camp and help the public relations a bit.

Posted by Yank 2003-11-18 2:59:02 PM|| 2003-11-18 2:59:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 "The beatings will continue until morale improves! -- Management"

Posted by Dar 2003-11-18 4:17:32 PM|| 2003-11-18 4:17:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Feed him to the sharks in front of the boys. Then ask the rest of them if they have issues with "depression"...

Posted by tu3031 2003-11-18 4:47:13 PM|| 2003-11-18 4:47:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Sentence the guy to house arrest in the home of the clown who wrote this article for the Guardian.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-18 9:00:00 PM|| 2003-11-18 9:00:00 PM|| Front Page Top

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