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2010-11-15 Home Front: WoT

TSA: Once you set foot in security, you are ours. To do with as we please.

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Posted by gorb 2010-11-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11133 views ] Top

#1 HMMMM, HMMMM, FTLG i don't know whetehr to yell
"W-O-L-V-E-R-I-N-E-S" ala 1980's RED DAWN = future "AMERICAN/GLOBAL DANW" ....

versies

A sexy "OOOOOOO YEAH, BABY, HURT ME HURT ME REAL BAD"!

Heehee.

[MOUD/AL "SORTA WANT" BUNDY here].

Posted by JosephMendiola 2010-11-15 00:14|| 2010-11-15 00:14|| Front Page Top

#2 Just more Security Theater. Every time the jihadis make another run, the security restrictions tighten. What are they going to do after Mahmoud shows up with an ass-bomb? (don't laugh. it already has been tried, rather unsuccessfully, to whack some Saudi prince)

You can't win a war by playing defense.

Posted by SteveS 2010-11-15 00:27|| 2010-11-15 00:27|| Front Page Top

#3 So how many terrorists has TSA caught yet?

Posted by European Conservative 2010-11-15 00:33|| 2010-11-15 00:33|| Front Page Top

#4 Lamp post shortage in 3-2-1...

Posted by M. Murcek 2010-11-15 00:42|| 2010-11-15 00:42|| Front Page Top

#5 How about - nobody in islamic garb flies.
Sounds like a fine first step before this bs.
Then --- Nobody with passports from Islamic nations flies.
Then -- Nobody with the first name of "Mo..." flys.

Posted by Water Modem 2010-11-15 01:51|| 2010-11-15 01:51|| Front Page Top

#6 Maybe a free beer before boarding to wash down the complementary ham sandwich?

Posted by Skidmark 2010-11-15 03:03|| 2010-11-15 03:03|| Front Page Top

#7 #3 So how many terrorists has TSA caught yet? Posted by European Conservative

At TSA, the terrorists is us.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-11-15 06:08|| 2010-11-15 06:08|| Front Page Top

#8 Well you may look for guns and big knives. That has worked pretty well.

Passengers will handle the rest.

If we are to be worried about exploding toothpaste we can as well give up flying (or driving to the airport which is MUCH MORE dangerous, let alone that shower you take before you leave home.

Absolute security doesn't exist. We don't expect it when we drive, so we shouldn't expect it when we fly.

We don't catch terrorist at the gate, we need to catch them well before.

Posted by European Conservative 2010-11-15 06:34|| 2010-11-15 06:34|| Front Page Top

#9 TSA is more than Security Theatre. It's a big government 'make work' employment program. Here are tens of thousands of people 'earning' a living far above what virtually all of them would ever earn in the real world. Modern WPA or CCC.

Posted by Glenmore 2010-11-15 08:21|| 2010-11-15 08:21|| Front Page Top

#10 Right Glenmore - someone has to provide employment for sexual perverts who like to pat people down - I guess TSA is up to the task.

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-11-15 10:36|| 2010-11-15 10:36|| Front Page Top

#11 Per the video below - the TSA even grope-searching 3-year-old children.

And an interesting tip at the end - when you get your ticket you can ask if your child has been selected for the 'random' search and if so - you can have them 'deselected'.

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-11-15 10:43|| 2010-11-15 10:43|| Front Page Top

#12 This is a very big deal.

Especially if 11/24 becomes national opt-out day.

The problem with the Vietnam war began with the expansion of the draft. It represented the government taking action against individual Americans, and they resented it.

Now the government is being seen to be taking actions against Americans for the first time in this war. As far as I am concerned this has been true since the TSA was started, but a significant number of Americans did not agree until now.

So let's review the bidding. Great Society program passed, check. Money supply exploded to pay for it, check. Tax reduction of prior administration reversed for rich via surtax, check. Military related action affects Americans daily lives, check. President faces primary challenge from own party, check. President withdraws from campaigning, TBD.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2010-11-15 10:45|| 2010-11-15 10:45|| Front Page Top

#13 Random searching is like trying to solve a crime by going out and picking up 20 random people at the local mall and interrogating them. You only look like your doing something.

No real terrorist is going to go through backscatter with a real gun, knife, or bomb strapped to them. They will conceal - even in a body cavity.

You would think that they would consult with Israel which has been fairly successfully dealing with this kind of threat for decades - without the backscatter, public grope searches, and cavity searching.

But I guess actually solving the problem isn't the goal.....

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-11-15 11:08|| 2010-11-15 11:08|| Front Page Top

#14 Went through Denver airport TSA (thousands standing around) and avoided the Orgasmatron. I agree that a good place to start for airport security is looking at the Israeli model.

The latest directive on printer toner packages is a classic case of reactive policy, rather than going on the offensive. Got to go to the source first and deal with it.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2010-11-15 12:10|| 2010-11-15 12:10|| Front Page Top

#15 Do I get to choose who pats me down? I might not mind.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2010-11-15 12:25|| 2010-11-15 12:25|| Front Page Top

#16 The big lassie with the butch haircut is waiting for you, Deacon, heh.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2010-11-15 12:31|| 2010-11-15 12:31|| Front Page Top

#17 Coming soon: Moral outrage from fundamentalist Muslims about it violating the modesty required by their religion, followed by special exemption from both orgasmatron and groping.

Posted by Glenmore 2010-11-15 13:07|| 2010-11-15 13:07|| Front Page Top

#18 Or a boxcutter? To a point random searches work because it increases the odds of getting caught. When searches become likely to certain is when the innovative hiding kicks in.

And the innovation is well documented. Not terrorism, drug running. So yes I comprendo both the reason and reaction. And if the policy is to search then everyone must be open to search: sikh, muslim, amish, glee club, mimes, old white men returning from asia, everyone.

However, being phukingdics puts a checkmark onto the problem side of the chart - kinda like red light cameras. It is fostering conflict/aggrivation. What they should want is cooperation so the next time some TSA leaves their handgun in the bathroom it gets returned.

Posted by swksvolFF 2010-11-15 13:12|| 2010-11-15 13:12|| Front Page Top

#19 These are the same guys that are suing the State of Arizona because asking for i d is harassing people.Looking to save money thru budget cuts? Start here.

Posted by john morrissey 2010-11-15 13:32|| 2010-11-15 13:32|| Front Page Top

#20 #13 You would think that they would consult with Israel which has been fairly successfully dealing with this kind of threat for decades - without the backscatter, public grope searches, and cavity searching.

Yup. A good place to start.

How about stripping nekked and skip all this B.S. Flying naked through the unfriendly skies.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-11-15 14:55|| 2010-11-15 14:55|| Front Page Top

#21 I wonder why underwear wasn't banned after the undie-bomber.

Posted by Deacon Blues 2010-11-15 15:40|| 2010-11-15 15:40|| Front Page Top

#22 If Napolitano goes in front of me and offers to get groped, I'll follow her. I'll let my junk get touched.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-11-15 15:46|| 2010-11-15 15:46|| Front Page Top

#23 I'd like to see an airline start up that isn't befouled by the TSA. It would just have reasonable security, meaning profiling and a full body scanner for high risks. The only difference would be no lawsuits from terrorist actions. And no disconnected idiots in charge of security.

It would be interesting to see how much business they would take away from our present system.

Posted by gorb 2010-11-15 16:08|| 2010-11-15 16:08|| Front Page Top

#24 If Napolitano goes in front of me and offers to get groped, I'll follow her. I'll let my junk get touched.

You'd let Janet touch your junk? How about Aunt Bea?

Posted by gorb 2010-11-15 16:21|| 2010-11-15 16:21|| Front Page Top

#25 So, what if I opt out due to concerns about radiation, say I opt out out loud after the TSA agent does just to make sure everyone understands what he said, then when they get me into their back room I just go ahead and drop my pants, in the name of improving the process and to remove any lagging doubt on the part of the screener, of course, will I go to jail?

Just wondering.

Posted by Kelly 2010-11-15 16:25|| 2010-11-15 16:25|| Front Page Top

#26 You'd let Janet touch your junk? How about Aunt Bea?

Thanks Gorb for that Napolitano moment. I will have a lot of trouble getting that image out of my head.

Posted by JohnQC 2010-11-15 16:37|| 2010-11-15 16:37|| Front Page Top

#27 #17 Coming soon: Moral outrage from fundamentalist Muslims about it violating the modesty required by their religion, followed by special exemption from both orgasmatron and groping.
Posted by Glenmore 2010-11-15 13:07|| 2010-11-15
Done:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/11/hamas-linked-cair-tsa-may-only-search-around-muslim-womens-head-neck.html
snip:The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has issued a travel notice to Muslim airline passengers, warning them that new regulations from the Transportation Security Administration violate certain religious rules.
Oh here's Janet:
http://weaselzippers.us/2010/11/15/dhs-chief-napolitano-about-to-cave-to-cairs-demand-hijab-clad-women-be-exempt-from-full-body-pat-downs/
snip:(CNSNews.com) - When asked today if she will insist that Muslim women wearing hijabs must go through full body pat downs before boarding planes, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano did not say yes or no, but told CNSNews.com there will be adjustments and more to come on the issue.

Posted by Lumpy Phaviger7307 2010-11-15 17:07|| 2010-11-15 17:07|| Front Page Top

#28 If Muslim women in hijab are exempt from pat-down/body scan, it seems like a clear case of religious discrimination. Especially if Catholic nuns are not exempt. For that matter, if anyone is not exempt. Any lawyers out there want to start a class action suit based on religious discrimination?

Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2010-11-15 18:43|| 2010-11-15 18:43|| Front Page Top

#29 The 'pat down' doesn't bother as much as flying Delta coach fare on a 737.

"Organsmatron".....whahahahaa Glenmore did it again.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-11-15 19:53|| 2010-11-15 19:53|| Front Page Top

#30 "Orgasmatron" - wasn't me, Besoeker. I stole it from Alaska Paul who no doubt saw the similarity to that Woody Allen movie gadget (back when Woody Allen was actually funny.)

Posted by Glenmore 2010-11-15 20:12|| 2010-11-15 20:12|| Front Page Top

#31 The point is just this. TSA says you must submit. Submission = Islam. Just prepping the sheeple for the coming Caliphate.

Posted by Vespasian Smith 8945 2010-11-15 21:52|| 2010-11-15 21:52|| Front Page Top

#32 Thanks Gorb for that Napolitano moment. I will have a lot of trouble getting that image out of my head.

Sorry 'bout that. Just try focusing on Aunt Bea and it won't be nearly as uncomfortable.

Posted by gorb 2010-11-15 22:41|| 2010-11-15 22:41|| Front Page Top

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