Article

2004-11-15 Israel-Palestine

Submarine Penetrated Israeli Territorial Waters

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-11-15 6:48:16 AM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 hehe the chinese sub got lost again ?! or just on some kind of world tour with an overly keen captain , Sum Yung-Guy ! or maybe Hung Wel-Lo !

Posted by MacNails 2004-11-15 6:59:29 AM|| 2004-11-15 6:59:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 So who does possess submarines that would want to sneak one close to the coast of Israel? Any of the Muslim neighbors?

Posted by Jame Retief 2004-11-15 6:59:39 AM|| 2004-11-15 6:59:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 If I remember rightly, Iran has two Russian-built subs.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-11-15 7:06:27 AM|| 2004-11-15 7:06:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Eeek Russian built and run by Iranians .. not the most proficient team i can think of

Quality Assured

Posted by MacNails 2004-11-15 7:18:10 AM|| 2004-11-15 7:18:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 ManNails - As bad as British built and operated by Canadians?!

Posted by Bulldog 2004-11-15 7:21:23 AM|| 2004-11-15 7:21:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 MacNails... I can't seem to get your name right, Mac!

Posted by Bulldog 2004-11-15 7:21:54 AM|| 2004-11-15 7:21:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 hehe yeh ! agreed on both posts mate :)

Posted by MacNails 2004-11-15 7:23:01 AM|| 2004-11-15 7:23:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Seems unlikely to be an Iranian sub - this is the Mediterranean coast we're talking about, which is a long way from home for the Iranians, especially since they're unlikely to have sent a sub through the Suez Canal. Much more likely to be the Syrians (if they have any subs) or the Egyptians.

Posted by Captain Pedantic 2004-11-15 8:17:32 AM|| 2004-11-15 8:17:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Heh, The Capt has definitely put the kabosh on the Mad Mullah Marine Marauders!

Hmmm. Who could it be, then? The Atlanteans. Or Nemo (no, not the fish, darnit!). Or, and this is my personal favorite, it was the Secret Navy of the Far Flung Isles of Langerhans... a nefarious bunch, if ya ask me.

Posted by .com 2004-11-15 8:24:44 AM|| 2004-11-15 8:24:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I believe Syria has 2 pretty much disfunctional Romeo class submarines , very dated bits of gear . I think the first came off the production line in the mid 1960's

And yeh , I think the nefarious bunch could be City of Atlantis sub crew , they been keeping quite for a long time now ,and being stationed just off cyprus , well within range :P

Posted by MacNails 2004-11-15 8:45:33 AM|| 2004-11-15 8:45:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 The're probably French Subs spying on the Israelis and looking to brown nose with the Islamists.

Posted by BigH 2004-11-15 9:51:37 AM|| 2004-11-15 9:51:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Algeria has 2 Kilo class subs, but they are unlikely to be interested in mucking about with the Israelis just now. Egypt has 4 Chinese built Romeos. As MacNails points out, this is a very old design, but the Chinese still build a version of it, the Ming class, and the Egyptian boats have have been upgraded with US and other western weapons and systems, including Sub-Harpoon.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-11-15 10:06:32 AM|| 2004-11-15 10:06:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 The article doesn't specify, but you're all talking about full-sized subs. What if they're smaller, two-man or four-man sized subs, the kind that are more easily deliverable to Syria? Just a thought.

Posted by longtime lurker 2004-11-15 1:10:26 PM|| 2004-11-15 1:10:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 It's the Al-Alvin.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-11-15 1:18:18 PM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2004-11-15 1:18:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Maybe the sub was stolen?

(That's why you should use the sub club; it limits would-be thieves in their choice of escape and evasion patterns to the easily predictable nautilus maneuver...)

Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-11-15 1:30:00 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com] 2004-11-15 1:30:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Another vote for French subs. No pretense any more: France is on the other side in the middle east. As Prime Minister Raffarin put it, "The Iraqi resistance are our best allies." Ditto for the Arafat Martyrs Brigade, Hamas etc.

Posted by lex 2004-11-15 1:34:07 PM|| 2004-11-15 1:34:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Sounds like the sort of dangerous, close in work that the stealthy Gulf of Tonkin Class was built for. I wonder if whiz-bangs were spotted.

Posted by Shipman 2004-11-15 3:38:05 PM|| 2004-11-15 3:38:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 For whatever it's worth, Debka is claiming that the sub was American.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2004-11-15 5:18:32 PM|| [http://www.punictreachery.com/] 2004-11-15 5:18:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Wo ai zhongguo ren.
Wo ai zhongguo ren.
Wo ai zhongguo ren.
Ni hao ma; ni hao ma; ni hao ma; zaijien!

Posted by mojo 2004-11-15 5:34:26 PM|| 2004-11-15 5:34:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Debka is claiming that the sub was American.

Can't be us, even the Israelis ain't good enough to hear one of ours. Sez in the article they spotted it on radar, sounds like a diesel boat.

Posted by Steve 2004-11-15 9:37:48 PM|| 2004-11-15 9:37:48 PM|| Front Page Top

00:14 JosephMendiola
00:05 Rafael
23:58 JosephMendiola
23:56 .com
23:52 someone
23:49 someone
23:49 Frank G
23:47 A Jackson
23:45 .com
23:45 Frank G
23:44 A Jackson
23:42 A Jackson
23:37 Alaska Paul
23:37 .com
23:36 A Jackson
23:32 Dishman
23:28 phil_b
23:23 TopMac
23:22 Tibor
23:20 Frank G
23:15 Alaska Paul
23:07 CrazyFool
23:06 Mark Espinola
23:06 Kalle (kafir forever)