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2004-11-14 Home Front: WoT
AQ Plans To Attack US From Mexican Border - Close It!
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Posted by Frank G 2004-11-14 11:44|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Start paying a bounty to Mexicans for any non-Mexican trying to sneak across the US border, anything from $1,000 to the sky if we catch them with a nuclear weapon. There would be Mexicans 50 deep on their side of the border just hoping to catch one. You couldn't smuggle a Arabic mosquito across that border.
Posted by Anonymoose 2004-11-14 11:52:10 AM||   2004-11-14 11:52:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Check here what would be the results of a 10KT blast in the area of your zip code.
Posted by Cornīliës 2004-11-14 12:01:16 PM||   2004-11-14 12:01:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Anonymouse, interesting idea... you should contact the department of homeland security and recommed it. One point I would make is that the mexicans would be afraid to report it even for the money because they are in fact involved in illegal immigration and are fearful of being busted.

What you could instead promise is that you won't be prosecuted, we won't ask questions about you illegal immigration operation and more importantly we'll provide you with a work permit to legally work in the US if your info results in a stopped non-mexican crossing.
Posted by Damn_Proud_American  2004-11-14 12:05:52 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com]  2004-11-14 12:05:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Cornīliës-
I ran that program for the only serious target here, Shaw AFB. I'm outside the blue ring by about two miles, but my concern is that my home's propane tank would be facing the fireball. Hell of a thing to wake up to on a Sunday morning.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-11-14 12:14:07 PM||   2004-11-14 12:14:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Damn_Proud_American, ditto that, a great idea, Anonymoose.
Posted by Cornīliës 2004-11-14 12:21:08 PM||   2004-11-14 12:21:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Damn frightening site C!. Is there a similiar one I can use to figure the blast effect of multiple airburts of 300kt devices in another area?
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-14 1:26:48 PM||   2004-11-14 1:26:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Shipman, the reason the web-app has been calibrated to 10KT is that it is the presumed upper limit of a device smuggled in by jihadis, because of logistics of dealing with higher yield devices.

Multiple airburts of 300KT devices are not likely (except West Coast targetted by Norks).
Posted by Cornīliës 2004-11-14 1:35:20 PM||   2004-11-14 1:35:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I wasn't thinking of the US. *cough*
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-14 2:59:18 PM||   2004-11-14 2:59:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Oh! Not sure I've seen some similar app to model different scenarios. Some data found here.
and here.
Posted by Cornīliës 2004-11-14 3:12:02 PM||   2004-11-14 3:12:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Have there been any *specific* announcements by the administration as to what would happen to countries found to have 'assisted' in any nuclear (or WMD in general) attack on the US or territories?

I believe that during the cold war the Soviets knew about SIOP and the consequences of any attack on US soil (surely one of the reasons why a nuclear exchange never happened), but I'm not aware of anything specific today.

Does Iran, Syria, Saudi et al realise what stakes they're playing for now? I think it was OldSpook yesterday who posted a suggestion he'd sent to President Bush a few years ago - one US city is nuked, 269 cities in the ME cease to exist 5 hours later...
Posted by Tony (UK)  2004-11-14 4:23:38 PM||   2004-11-14 4:23:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 But the problem is that the mullahs always use proxies. The nuke attack on US soil will almost certainly be via proxies delivering dirty nukes via something almost impossible to trace such as container cargo.
Posted by lex 2004-11-14 5:10:32 PM||   2004-11-14 5:10:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 So what lex? We tell them they are ashes if a nuke goes off. Even if it's not in the U. S. It's their problem to make sure it doesn't go off, not just ours. We tell them that as long as they are a rogue state our default assumption will be that any nuke detonation started with them, regardless of who pushed the button. You want to play in the big leagues you've got to take big league risks. We aren't suing them in court, we're playing for keeps. If politics ain't bean bag, international relations ain't JDAM.

Tell the NorKs the same. And anybody else who wants to play with these toys.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-11-14 5:28:22 PM||   2004-11-14 5:28:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 lex .. No need to trace it. A general warning to all the NORKs, Iranians, Saudi we get hit you get hurt.
That would dampen most sane folk, but we are not dealing with sane folk. So what a mother should do is punish all of them no matter who did it.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2004-11-14 5:46:41 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2004-11-14 5:46:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm with Mrs Davis here. We know the mullahs use proxies, and in the 'old days' they knew that we knew that, so we used 'diplomacy'. This was a dumb idea even then, nowadays its bordering on suicidal.

It's time for some US officials to talk (covertly?) to members of the Iranian, Syrian, North Korean, Saudi and other governments who are known for using proxies, that there's a new doctrine in town - if there's an attack on the US, then the following targets disappear, and they'll be a selection from *all* of the above countries...
Posted by Tony (UK)  2004-11-14 5:57:25 PM||   2004-11-14 5:57:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Check here what would be the results of a 10KT blast in the area of your zip code.

Hmmm, I tried this and it just came back with a popup that contained a huge smiley face and the phrase "Hundreds of thousands of dead moonbats! Hu-ah!"
Posted by AzCat 2004-11-14 6:33:49 PM||   2004-11-14 6:33:49 PM|| Front Page Top

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