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2004-11-14 Home Front: WoT
And the CIA purge goes on ...
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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-11-14 12:48:22 AM|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 DO needs reform, badly. And unfortunately, the types of barnicles in there can only be removed, not reformed.

And until they get the leakers and obstructionists and careerists out of the way, the agency will remain disfunctional and will put the nation at risk of a nuc or chem 9/11.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-11-14 4:38:52 AM||   2004-11-14 4:38:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Great. So now we'll just have a bunch of Bush "yes" men at the CIA. That worked really well at the DOD...
Posted by Strategic Armchair Command  2004-11-14 6:36:09 AM|| [http://www.sacom.us]  2004-11-14 6:36:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I would say Rummie has done a pretty good job,SAC.
Posted by raptor 2004-11-14 7:11:22 AM||   2004-11-14 7:11:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Ooops,that was supposed to be a compliment to Rummie.(Give me coffe and nobody gets hurt)
Posted by raptor 2004-11-14 7:19:38 AM||   2004-11-14 7:19:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Little pricks need to grow up. It isn't about your turf.
Posted by Lucky 2004-11-14 9:44:59 AM||   2004-11-14 9:44:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 "major changes...would be unwarranted"

Got the Soviet economy wrong.
Suprised by collapse of Soviet Union.
Suprised by Iraq attack on Kuwait.
Couldn't tell US where a Chinese Enbassy was.
Still can't confirm if Sudan facility was a bio/chem weapons lab.
Didn't know extent of Libya's nuke program.
Can't tell if N.Korea has nukes or not.
Didn't know about Pakistani nuke-knowledge pipeline.
Had/has no clue about Saddam's weapons programs.
Had no clue of extent of Saddam's abuse of Oil for Food.
Didn't know Oil for Food money was bribing France and Russia.
Couldn't infiltrate Al-Q,then claimed it would take years before building capability to do so,even tho British jailbirds and American teens had no problem joining Al-Q in Afghanistan.
Had no clue Saddam and co. had guerrilla war plan in case US occupied Iraq.
Couldn't locate Sassam.
Can't locate Osama.
9/11.

Who would ever want to make major changes to an Agency w/such a splendid record?
Posted by Stephen 2004-11-14 1:54:21 PM||   2004-11-14 1:54:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Rummie was a hard-ass who went after an entrenched military mindset in the Pentagon. Rummy saw the new threats and realized that the military would have to go through massive changes in its structure and attitudes to meet these new realities.

IMHO, Goss is facing the same issues. He needs to review and hone his vision. When he has the plan approved from the top, he needs to go in there like Rummy and be the leader for change. Sometimes he will have to be the Head SOB. Some old guard will have to be shown the door. Stephen has listed major failures of the CIA. Everything is not just wizbang sensors and computers, though necessary, are not sufficient. The CIA will need eyes and ears on the ground, that THAT takes years to develop. We better get crackin'. Good luck, Mr. Goss.
Posted by Alaska Paul  2004-11-14 2:08:45 PM||   2004-11-14 2:08:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Shut it down and start over. The rot is far too broad and deep for reform to work.
Posted by lex 2004-11-14 2:10:14 PM||   2004-11-14 2:10:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 So now we'll just have a bunch of Bush "yes" men at the CIA.

A stockbroker I worked for at Corinthian Partners, L.L.C. said this: loyalty (integrity) > ability.
Posted by Edward Yee  2004-11-14 2:10:28 PM||   2004-11-14 2:10:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Corinthian Partners, L.L.C. Aren't those the guys who tried to corner the leather market?
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2004-11-14 2:21:21 PM||   2004-11-14 2:21:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 The very ones, Mrs D. Their CEO, a guy named Ricardo Montalban, did 6 months in the big house with Boesky
Posted by lex 2004-11-14 2:32:21 PM||   2004-11-14 2:32:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Naw CP LLC is into smuggling columns from Macedonia.
Posted by Shipman 2004-11-14 2:32:58 PM||   2004-11-14 2:32:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 DO needs reform, badly. And unfortunately, the types of barnicles in there can only be removed, not reformed.

And until they get the leakers and obstructionists and careerists out of the way, the agency will remain disfunctional and will put the nation at risk of a nuc or chem 9/11.
Posted by OldSpook 2004-11-14 4:38:52 AM||   2004-11-14 4:38:52 AM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by OldSpook 2004-11-14 4:38:52 AM||   2004-11-14 4:38:52 AM|| Front Page Top

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