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2018-10-27 -Lurid Crime Tales-

Retired General Honoré calls Trump plan to dispatch active duty troops to border 'unusual'

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Posted by Besoeker 2018-10-27 08:14|| || Front Page|| [5 views ] Top

#1 Seem to have forgotten about over a half century of active military on that border? Apaches or Pancho Villa ring a bell?

Posted by Procopius2k 2018-10-27 08:24|| 2018-10-27 08:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Who has more experience with border security than the Regular Army, USMC, or USAF? Pick a border, any border.

Send in the Regulars as the Advance Party (ADVON) operational, logistical, medical and tactical planners, then fill in the gaps with national rotating guard or reserve as requirements dictate.

"Leadership in Action" General, "Leadership in Action."

Posted by Besoeker 2018-10-27 08:34|| 2018-10-27 08:34|| Front Page Top

#3 800 troops struck me as pretty light. Then there's this:

https://spectator.org/the-pentagon-isnt-serious-about-stopping-the-caravan/

So how many of these 800 are lawyers?
And ROE for the rest?

Posted by Ebbilet Glereger2712 2018-10-27 08:47|| 2018-10-27 08:47|| Front Page Top

#4 Link to #3.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-10-27 08:52|| 2018-10-27 08:52|| Front Page Top

#5 Thanks B. Can get link thingy to work in my browser,

Here's another if you don't mind:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/10/caught-on-video-mexican-police-stop-buses-and-trucks-forces-them-to-take-caravan-immigrants-to-us-border/

Posted by Ebblilet etc. 2018-10-27 08:55|| 2018-10-27 08:55|| Front Page Top

#6 Link to #5.

With your permission, your article merits a full posting. Thanks for sending it to us.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-10-27 09:02|| 2018-10-27 09:02|| Front Page Top

#7 800 regular army loggies.
Nat Guard doesn't have a deep enough supply chain for the next wave.

Posted by Skidmark 2018-10-27 10:43|| 2018-10-27 10:43|| Front Page Top

#8 This is the media/NeverTrumpers getting hung up on 'unusual'. Having caravans of 'migrants' invading your county is the unusual part.

Posted by SteveS 2018-10-27 10:46|| 2018-10-27 10:46|| Front Page Top

#9 Excellent point, SteveS.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2018-10-27 11:35|| 2018-10-27 11:35|| Front Page Top

#10 PDJT does not want to screw arund with snowflake (NPC?) Governors skittish about protecting their countrys borders.

Posted by Anomalous Sources 2018-10-27 12:33|| 2018-10-27 12:33|| Front Page Top

#11 My military father manned a 50 caliber machine nest on the border just before WWII.

Posted by Ebbavirt Clunk4147 2018-10-27 14:13|| 2018-10-27 14:13|| Front Page Top

#12 HA! APPLY as NEEDED, If it works out? RINSE AND REPEAT~~~~~ PLEASE! BUILD THE DAMN WALL!

Posted by ranture 2018-10-27 14:15|| 2018-10-27 14:15|| Front Page Top

#13 I know some National Guard weekend warriors who thought 4-5 tours in a war zone unusual. Our military is primarily defensive and it would be foolhardy to not have learned the lessons of decades of ME/SE Asian warfare and use the same surveillance/tech for protecting our own borders. Hopefully the Federal Police are taking them in an orderly fashion to detention centers to collect DNA and weed out the criminals, traffickers, and separate the true families from the human shields. All need screened for infectious diseases and kept from being human bioweapons. Military age males are without excuse if they continue. It is not our moral or legal responsibility for non-citizens of the USA. Mexico cannot afford to not cooperate with US.
To share some other common sense suggestions from other patriots:
Build a non-lethal "non-wall". You don't need to build physical wall anymore, just put up active denial sonic and microwave crowd control devices. Drone surveillance and you're are done in about two weeks.

Bingo! Active Denial is the only way and has enough standoff distance to prevent them coming through and to remain on Mexico’s soil.
I hope President Trump has been made aware of this option if not call, or tweet your suggestions to him ASAP you could change history. Consider Generals Kelly and Mattis really want open borders and are globalists.
If they have been warned then who's fault is that?
Drop leaflets warning them of that which awaits them. Use bullhorns for the illiterate. If they cross over the border after being told not to we have every right to shoot to kill. Put it this way, if somebody comes to your house and stands at the fence and you tell him not to come in and he does, you have every right to shoot him. Same thing here. NO TRESPASSING. VIOLATERS WILL BE SHOT ON SITE.
Tax remittances from those already here to help pay for it. Suspend immigration laws, execute an executive order that no amnesty will be granted to any member of the caravan and no member of the caravan will ever be eligible for citizenship, a green card, amnesty, asylum etc. Any pregnant woman must not be allowed in until after the baby is born. She must accept a 5 year birth control shot.

Posted by Eohippus Dribble5682 2018-10-27 14:50|| 2018-10-27 14:50|| Front Page Top

#14 Our President has Plenary Power.
Just because the rest were limp wristed does not mean I expect this one to be.

Posted by newc 2018-10-27 15:04|| 2018-10-27 15:04|| Front Page Top

#15 This is the media/NeverTrumpers getting hung up on 'unusual'. Having caravans of 'migrants' invading your county is the unusual part.
Posted by SteveS

Ditto !

Posted by Besoeker 2018-10-27 15:20|| 2018-10-27 15:20|| Front Page Top

#16 denial sonic and microwave crowd control devices (#13)

Augmented with overlapping ~~non-lethal~~ .50 cal tracer fire.

Posted by Besoeker 2018-10-27 15:33|| 2018-10-27 15:33|| Front Page Top

#17 This is the media/NeverTrumpers getting hung up on 'unusual'. Having caravans of 'migrants' invading your county is the unusual part.
Posted by SteveS
Having a mass migration, people coming in a crowd of "hundreds to thousands" qualifies, like an ancient Volswanderung certainly merits an "unusual" response -- like mustering the Legions to the Frontier.

Posted by magpie 2018-10-27 15:35|| 2018-10-27 15:35|| Front Page Top

#18 Active denial systems are great for open spaces.
In many border metro areas 'the wall' is the only structural element of Mexican shanties.

Posted by Skidmark 2018-10-27 16:33|| 2018-10-27 16:33|| Front Page Top

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