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2006-10-24 China-Japan-Koreas
White House responds to N. Korea policy critics
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Posted by Fred 2006-10-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 How about 2-party talks? US and PRC. When you come right down to it, they are by far the biggest players in this opera.
Posted by Jackal">Jackal  2006-10-24 00:10|| http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]  2006-10-24 00:10|| Front Page Top

#2 Sorry, but I doubt the Chicoms = Commies won't agree to it becuz one, the decades-old, geo-potemkinist ideo facade that Communists + Leftists are NOT imperialists; second, the facade of the NorComs that they fought against any and all forms of European andor External rule and influnce, i.e. KOREA FOR KOREANS ONLY; and third, by all accounts China has not forsaken its ambitions for Chinese- + Commie-centric Asia-Pacific hegemony. China needs the NORKORS to PC threaten other Asian nations + West so that China can have PDeniability, i.e. "save face". China is still weak or vulnerable in comparison to several of its regional competitors espec JAPAN + including SCO. China, like Mikhail Gorbachev, wants MODERNIZATION BUT UNDER COMMUNISM-SOCIALISM, and hence needs to work in the shadows, i.e. subtlely or covertly for the most part. This is why China will do little or nuthin to stop Kimmie unless Chinese control of North Korea is being directly = overtly threatened + Kimmie or successor directs Norkie fury at any other regional-world state except China. North Korea is viewed by many credentialed pundits-analysts as already being a nuclear power long before the recent nuke tests, JUST THAT IT DOES NOT CONTROL ITS NUCLEAR WEAPONS NOR ITS OWN ARMY - CHINA DOES. IN HYPER-CORRECT, DIALECTIC CHICOM/COMMIE SPEAK, NORTH KOREA = KOREAS IS OFFICIALLY [ before the World] SOVEREIGN AND INDEPENDENT, BUT IN REALITY IS JUST A NON/UN-ANNEXED CHINESE PROVINCE(S). Even the latter is changing as both Koreas are complaining about Chinese books + maps which depicts the Koreas as geographically or ethnically part of mainland China. ITS GETTING HARDER AND HARDER FOR THE NOKORCOMS TO SAY OR PROVE THEY ARE NOT CHINESE = CHINESE-CONTROLLED! OOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPSSSIES, how does Kimmie Spears keep getting herself = himself = itself? into these thingys.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-10-24 00:49||   2006-10-24 00:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Kimmie can negotiate with the Japanese General Staff.
Posted by ed 2006-10-24 01:03||   2006-10-24 01:03|| Front Page Top

#4 Good Analysis Joe...

...once I parsed it that is :).
Posted by CrazyFool 2006-10-24 08:27||   2006-10-24 08:27|| Front Page Top

#5 Yeah, Mr. Mendiola was unusually clear, and he made some good points... or perhaps we're just becoming used to it, I dunno.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-10-24 09:06||   2006-10-24 09:06|| Front Page Top

#6 I'll mine it for Caps and Punctuation.
Posted by .com 2006-10-24 09:15||   2006-10-24 09:15|| Front Page Top

#7 it hurts my head...like the stripes in Ann Sheridan's pants
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-10-24 09:18||   2006-10-24 09:18|| Front Page Top

#8 We could ask CF for a translation... A CliffsNotes version would be best.
Posted by .com 2006-10-24 09:19||   2006-10-24 09:19|| Front Page Top

#9 If I understand Joe's (rather impressive) analysis correctly, the Chinese are engaged in Gorbachev-like capitalism under communism, but need the Norks to act as their proxy in order to keep their hand in the Asian hegemony game. The Norks stay alive this way, but the Koreans as a whole are starting to suspect that the Chinese are marking them for absorption at some later point. (Joe, how'd I do?)

I used to be confused by Joe but his writing is getting more and more incisive, particularly with respect to the Chinese. If only he'd leave off the weird capitalizations...
Posted by Jonathan">Jonathan  2006-10-24 10:10||   2006-10-24 10:10|| Front Page Top

#10 I think Joe sends the local keyboard retailer's kids to college.
Posted by mrp 2006-10-24 10:22||   2006-10-24 10:22|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm impressed the White House is finally publicly defending its policies and defusing some of the criticism. President Bush cannot be blamed for a foreign policy failure if the rest of the world, including China, oppose Kim's ambitions to unilaterally hold the world hostage to nuclear blackmail.
Posted by Danielle 2006-10-24 10:33||   2006-10-24 10:33|| Front Page Top

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