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2004-10-03 Home Front: Politix

Gloom and doom purveyors By Oliver North

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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-10-03 2:31:37 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Right, and J F'n Kerry should be president, right? Seems there was something about war crimes he acknowledged doing....

Posted by Capt America 2004-10-03 5:24:48 AM|| 2004-10-03 5:24:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't think North belongs in the brig anymore than Clinton does, but I agree he's not the best face of the party.

Posted by 2b 2004-10-03 8:33:06 AM|| 2004-10-03 8:33:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 This might get me into trouble 'round here, but I always thought the right place for Col. North was the brig, for lying to Congress."

What do you mean by the meaning of "is." I never slept with that woman. I invented the Internet. We have had to suffer from a great deal of lying in Washington. Congressional raises get passed in the middle of the night. Don't forget the Gulf of Tonkin. Rathergate. Need I go on?

I wouldn't get on North too much. The current focus is Kerry and not North. I do not trust Kerry with the country. North is not trying to be President and lead the country.

North did try to raise the alarm about Al Qaida and terrorists back during the Reagan administration. People just weren't listening to the important part of his message.

Doom and gloom have to be spread for the Democrats to win. It is the politics of despair. It is their MO.

The voters just need to keep their eyes on the ball and not be deceived by "der SKerry slickness." I worry that many will be deceived by the $4000 suits, $200 haircut, orange skin tone, and lip make up and constant spin. I hope we as a people are not that shallow and see through the smoke screen.

Posted by John 2004-10-03 8:49:08 AM|| 2004-10-03 8:49:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 In military circles, North is your basic self-promoting martinet. These folks often gravitate towards D.C. and the Pentagon, and are often "ethically challenged." They are generally 'militarists', convinced a snappy uniform and a handsome face win wars; yet in practice they are "Flashman" types. Their enemies are the 'militants', the mission accomplishers who are both utilitarian and honorable. The two types do NOT get along, and while the military wants the former in peacetime, it must have the latter in wartime. Militants rarely advance beyond O6, but the few who do are extraordinarily dangerous. Militarists thrive in the higher eschelons, but rarely ever matter in the long run. A militarist at the troop level gets his troops killed.

Posted by Anonymoose 2004-10-03 10:35:57 AM|| 2004-10-03 10:35:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Not trying to mangle your theories; I just want to get the facts straight.

Firstly, what is a Flashman type?

You said militants are what the military wants in wartime, but you said that the militants who get past O-6 are dangerous. Dangerous to whom? Us or the enemy?

Posted by badanov 2004-10-03 10:44:08 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/title-boris.gif] 2004-10-03 10:44:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#6
"...North is your basic self-promoting martinet."

Martinet n

1. A rigid military disciplinarian.
2. One who demands absolute adherence to forms and rules

Are you sure you didn't mean marionette?

Mr. Peabody

Posted by Mr. Peabody 2004-10-03 11:16:33 AM|| 2004-10-03 11:16:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 John: This might get me into trouble 'round here, but I always thought the right place for Col. North was the brig, for lying to Congress.

And have a second impeachment proceeding, with Reagan being added to Nixon in the pantheon of impeached presidents? The real outrage is that aid to the anti-Communist contras was outlawed, even as John Kerry and Tom Harkin openly backed the Communist Sandinistas.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-10-03 3:34:47 PM|| [http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2004-10-03 3:34:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 actually it's not all bad to remind people of the battle lines during the eighties, when Kerry was a resolute peacenik, Sandinista-kisser and nuclear freeze idiot.

Kerry's proposal to scrap bunker-busters while giving nuclear fuel to Iran recalls the worst stupidities of the CND/Helen Caldicott crowd during the Reagan/Andropov era.

Nothing would help Bush more right now, IMHO, than to steer the debate into a choice of Reagan vs Mondale, hawk vs unilateral disarmament freak. I hope Rove is onto this.

Posted by lex 2004-10-03 3:41:54 PM|| 2004-10-03 3:41:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 lex - heh, heh.

Posted by 2b 2004-10-03 8:32:31 PM|| 2004-10-03 8:32:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Firstly, what is a Flashman type?

Harry Flashman, fictional Victorian rogue and soldier, who was primarily concerned with protecting his own skin. Somehow always managed to come out on the good end of things.

Posted by Pappy 2004-10-03 10:51:10 PM|| 2004-10-03 10:51:10 PM|| Front Page Top

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