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2023-10-20 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israeli Health Ministry Asks Civilians with Gun Licenses to Serve as Security Guards at Hospitals
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Posted by Besoeker 2023-10-20 05:59|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ]  Top
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#1 Cannot believe how disarmed the Israelis were and are. And Israeli's almost all have some military training. Baffles me.
Posted by mossomo 2023-10-20 12:51||   2023-10-20 12:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Well, it isn't using the situation to push Covid jabs, so there's that.
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-10-20 14:00||   2023-10-20 14:00|| Front Page Top

#3 mossomo, guns don't work against suicide boomers.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-20 14:01||   2023-10-20 14:01|| Front Page Top

#4 Yes, but as has been demonstrated repeatedly, Grom, guns work beautifully against knife killers and murderous car drivers. Also wannabe kidnappers, rapists, and shoplifters, should the latter become a serious problem.

Also, guards with guns have been known to kill jacket wallahs out on the street where people are relatively thinly spaced instead of inside whatever crowded building they’d planned to enter.
Posted by trailing wife 2023-10-20 15:00||   2023-10-20 15:00|| Front Page Top

#5 A gun is not a magic wand. A hand gun requires a lot of training. In any case, the tragedy in Gaza Envelope happened because people were sheltering from rockets. In cases were they did get weapons, it were assult rifles and Hamas attackers died.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-20 15:14||   2023-10-20 15:14|| Front Page Top

#6 A gun is not a magic wand. A hand gun requires a lot of training

No and it does require some training to use effectively. I would rather have some fellow CCW people around me than everyone disarmed, even if they are not at soldier level effectiveness. One determined asshole with a gun, even untrained, can put some serious hurt on the other fellows. If I was the Israeli government, I would be starting to foster a good gun culture there. Despite Israel's history, there has never been a real gun culture there and the people you see carrying M-16s are reservists that are required to have one on them at all times. Once out, the guns are pretty rapidly abandoned unless you are a West Bank settler.
Posted by DarthVader 2023-10-20 15:52||   2023-10-20 15:52|| Front Page Top

#7 ^Well Anakin, if you trained with M16 - switching to a hand gun requires dropping everything you learned about shooting.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-20 16:12||   2023-10-20 16:12|| Front Page Top

#8 A good guy with a gun is still a lot likelier to hit a bad guy guy than a good guy unarmed.
Posted by AlanC 2023-10-20 16:25||   2023-10-20 16:25|| Front Page Top

#9 Not going argue hand guns with Americans - never argue religion.
Posted by Grom the Reflective 2023-10-20 16:27||   2023-10-20 16:27|| Front Page Top

#10 America's real past-time is not baseball.
Posted by swksvolFF 2023-10-20 17:01||   2023-10-20 17:01|| Front Page Top

#11 Ready, fire, aim.
Posted by crazyhorse 2023-10-20 22:25||   2023-10-20 22:25|| Front Page Top

#12 if you trained with M16 - switching to a hand gun requires dropping everything you learned about shooting

Not completely. Same basic fundamentals apply. Only how the muscle groups need to act to put metal on meat changes. Still prefer the M-16/AR platform but I can hit what I want with a pistol. Just took an afternoon of training to relearn things.
Posted by DarthVader 2023-10-20 22:43||   2023-10-20 22:43|| Front Page Top

#13  A gun is not a magic wand.

Of course. A gun in my own hand would be useful for hitting people over the head ...and missing barns. But I do assume that other people with guns train to be able to use them. Especially in Israel, where the bad people are very bad indeed.
Posted by trailing wife 2023-10-20 22:52||   2023-10-20 22:52|| Front Page Top

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