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2014-10-20 Terror Networks

Vile image of baby girl being 'beheaded' found by Kurds on phone taken from dead ISIS fanatics

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Posted by Omack Phineng2606 2014-10-20 02:21|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top
File under: Islamic State

Posted by Big Thromoth3646 2014-10-20 04:11|| 2014-10-20 04:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Hopefully the phone will be passes along to British or U.S. intelligence for social network analysis.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-10-20 06:49|| 2014-10-20 06:49|| Front Page Top

#3 One can hope.

Posted by Pappy 2014-10-20 08:07|| 2014-10-20 08:07|| Front Page Top

#4 I wouldn't trust British or US Intel with the people in charge. They'll rationalize why they should not use it for public information. "It would just excite passions" (from the same people who exploited Zimmerman and Ferguson for political gain).

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-10-20 09:22|| 2014-10-20 09:22|| Front Page Top

#5 Ref pneumbha 4: Uniformed military signals intelligence personnel......good-to-go. Non-uniformed intelligence personnel, not so much.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-10-20 09:27|| 2014-10-20 09:27|| Front Page Top

#6 I hope the Kurds have a take no prisoners policy. Everyone of these ISIS foks need to get the knife.

Posted by Injun Ulomoque8628 2014-10-20 10:21|| 2014-10-20 10:21|| Front Page Top

#7 #6---I would imagine that this fight is a no quarter given one.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2014-10-20 10:43|| 2014-10-20 10:43|| Front Page Top

#8 I'm sure that is case AP. Probably also has something to do with Champ's reluctance to 'officially' us U.S. soldiers in a ground role. Wouldn't want to be the first president to toss the now meaningless Geneva Convention in the crapper and stand these mooslim scumbags against a wall now would we ?

Posted by Besoeker 2014-10-20 10:53|| 2014-10-20 10:53|| Front Page Top

#9 Don't both sides have to sign the Geneva Conventions for them to apply?

Posted by Choper B. Hayes7814 2014-10-20 11:01|| 2014-10-20 11:01|| Front Page Top

#10 Put the up against a wall? Why? Someone would have to clean it. Wire and a tree or phone pole pour encourager les autres. Or, more simply, on the spot, rifle barrel behind the ear, use one round.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-10-20 11:34|| 2014-10-20 11:34|| Front Page Top

#11 CBH: I believe that reciprocity is not required as it is believed that we should be 'more civilized' in our response to this kind of aggression. I'm more of a Phil Sheridan kind of guy.

Posted by bigfingo 2014-10-20 11:41|| 2014-10-20 11:41|| Front Page Top

#12 "The only good indian is a good indian" General Phillip Sheridan.

Posted by bigfingo 2014-10-20 11:45|| 2014-10-20 11:45|| Front Page Top

#13 #9 Don't both sides have to sign the Geneva Conventions for them to apply?

Why should it? During the Bush II ear all sorts of the usual suspects demanded that the US adhere to protocols it never ratified and many 'laws' that the same suspects made up out of thin air. Of course, the usual Left meme of 'one set of rules for me, another set of rules for thee' exempts everyone else (see - GC requirement to wear distinctive markings to differentiate civilians from combatants and prohibitions of using 'human shields')

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-10-20 12:05|| 2014-10-20 12:05|| Front Page Top

#14 CatholicOnline.com has the images, warning disturbing.

Posted by Snineth Phavimble9212 2014-10-20 12:35|| 2014-10-20 12:35|| Front Page Top

#15 Snineth Phavimble9212, the perps are not human. I have no words to express my emotion.

Posted by Omeang Thaimp9700 2014-10-20 12:54|| 2014-10-20 12:54|| Front Page Top

#16 #9 Don't both sides have to sign the Geneva Conventions for them to apply?

No. It applies to the country that signed them and they have to fight as if the hostile nation did.

Unfortunately, the conventions are some of the most misquoted things and usually by the left.

When I was in back in the early 90s (so this might have changed since then) a few things had to happen for the hostile combatants to fall under the protection of the Geneva Conventions.

1) The fighting force had to be internationally recognized. So a UN country had to support and recognize the faction.

2) The fighting force has to wear a uniform or a identifiable band or mark. Like an armband with their recognized logo or stitched to their clothes.

3) The fighting force cannot use civilian buildings as shields or fighting positions. Hospitals, buildings of worship or schools.

4) The fighting force had to treat captured civilians and soldiers with the same treatment as required by the Conventions.

Any one of those being broken removed the protection of the Conventions. So with the Iraqi insurgents, they broke every one of them so legally the US could have dragged the fighters they found out into the streets and hung them from the lampposts and still have followed the conventions.

ISIS obviously violates most of the conditions to start with so summarily shooting them is ok.
Now if the US sends troops in there are additional UCMJ rules that will apply and orders from on high that will keep that from happening of course. But I think that executions of fighters would go a long way in keeping other fighters from joining.

Posted by DarthVader 2014-10-20 13:01|| 2014-10-20 13:01|| Front Page Top

#17 I amnot sure about it Darth Vader. While planning for Barbarossathe German Higgh Command issued the directive that because Soviet union had not signed the Geneva Conventions German troops were not bound by them. So from the very first minute they shot Soviet prisoners and bombed Soviet medevac trains well before the Soviets had captured their first prisoner or been able to land their first bomb onay train.
German officers were even alloed to turn a blind eye on rapes.

Officers were even allowed to choose what to do about rapes. Punishingh

Posted by JFM 2014-10-20 14:48|| 2014-10-20 14:48|| Front Page Top

#18 Injun. Every Isis fighter should get the knife. But,not at te throat. Lower.

Posted by JFM 2014-10-20 14:51|| 2014-10-20 14:51|| Front Page Top

#19 Per the Convention, one is not obligated to follow the Accord if one's opponent has not signed. JFM is absolutely right.

In Afghanistan 2002, we followed the Accord because the old, old government there (King Whois) had signed way back when, and it was thought to be a gray area in international law whether the Taliban represented the 'legitimate' government. So Taliban fighters were treated per the Accord whereas al-Q fighters were not.

Posted by Steve White 2014-10-20 15:39|| 2014-10-20 15:39|| Front Page Top

#20 Here's the link on catholic online, it makes my blood boil

http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56481

Posted by Pheager Crineng7021 2014-10-20 17:35|| http://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=56481 2014-10-20 17:35|| Front Page Top

#21 Actually, this image is from August, I am still pissed.

Posted by Pheager Crineng7021 2014-10-20 17:38|| 2014-10-20 17:38|| Front Page Top

#22 Those images are very disturbing.

I'm sure the MSM will cover them just as well as they covered Abu Ghraib...

Posted by CrazyFool 2014-10-20 19:30|| 2014-10-20 19:30|| Front Page Top

#23 Any comments, Mr. Erdogan, about what your buddies are doing over yonder across the border?

Posted by Alaska Paul 2014-10-20 20:26|| 2014-10-20 20:26|| Front Page Top

#24 Butchers. They will get what they give.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-10-20 22:06|| 2014-10-20 22:06|| Front Page Top

#25 The Geneva Convention seems to be trotted out by the lefties any time we enter into a conflict involving "asymmetrical" opposition. Because they don't wear uniforms, use children, dogs, donkeys, and the mentally ill as bombs, and kill prisoners, they are not to receive the protections of the Convention. That being said, we should keep the moral high ground and not act as they do.

However, we do not have to take prisoners. Finding one picture or one video on a cell phone of a beheading, is enough to shoot the lot of them when you capture a group.

The clear message for the animals of ISIS is we will not give any quarter as you do not or will not give any quarter to any of ours. We should pile them up in the town square and let their bodies rot, they do not even deserve the rituals of Islam for the treatment of the dead. We should take no prisoners ever when fighting them.

Of course any prisoners we take put us in the position to have to enter the legal morass the ACLU would create over prisoner treatment. No prisoners, no rights. Also, we keep the media, Amnesia International, Human Rights Watch, the UN, the Red Cross and any other pseudo humanitarian bleeding heart sympathizer out of the way until the vultures have picked the bones clean and the wind has covered them with sand.

ISIS? Who? Don't know what you are talking about. Yes we fought a war and we won. That is all you need to know.

Posted by Call Me Mystic 2014-10-20 23:43|| 2014-10-20 23:43|| Front Page Top

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