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2005-10-15 Afghanistan-Pak-India

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Posted by Steve White 2005-10-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Karzai is showin he has balls

Posted by BigEd 2005-10-15 00:16|| 2005-10-15 00:16|| Front Page Top

#2 Riots! RIOTS!!!

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-10-15 00:40|| 2005-10-15 00:40|| Front Page Top

#3 Turbans twisting to maximum torque...

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2005-10-15 01:10|| 2005-10-15 01:10|| Front Page Top

#4 Afghanistan poking a thumb in the eye of Iran, Saudi Arabia, The Talibs, Waki Pakis, AQ and everyone else who has been destablising them and funding attacks on them.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-10-15 01:30|| 2005-10-15 01:30|| Front Page Top

#5 gutsy move by Karzai, also guarantees we'll have bases and access for a LONG time. The Jihadis/ISI will never (say a thousand yrs) forget or forgive

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-10-15 01:42|| 2005-10-15 01:42|| Front Page Top

#6 In my wanderings around the Internet I have met a number of Afghans, even Pashtoons who are either admirers of Israel or, due to natinalistic pride, resentful of Arabs.

BTW: I think we shoiuld try to show to Muslims that the Islamist project is only a tool of Arabaic imperialism, and let them draw their conclusions. For instance by getting some exposure to that to that text published in Rantburg yesterday ("I too have a dream" http://rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=132220&D=2005-10-14&HC=4)
where the author advocates for an islamic caliphate embracing all Muslim nations and with a single language: arabic. I am quite sure of the reaction of those nationalistic Pashtoons I referred to.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-10-15 05:24|| 2005-10-15 05:24|| Front Page Top

#7 I would love to see bin laden's, zawahiri's and mullah omar's faces upon hearing this!!!

Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan 2005-10-15 07:51|| 2005-10-15 07:51|| Front Page Top

#8 A fun bit of trivia that would really put the turbans in orbit....Khyber as in the 'Khyber Pass' is a Hebrew word. When the Assyrians dispersed the 10 Lost Tribes, some apparently went to Persia,Afghanistan and India. This is from a PBS documentary on them:
"The great medieval Jewish traveler is familiarly known as Benjamin of Tudela. We know little about him other that what emerges in his famous Book of Travels. In whichever community he visited, and even in those he didn't, Benjamin recorded his observations, many of which are quite imaginative.

When visiting in Persia and in the Arabian peninsula, Benjamin came across Jewish tribesmen whom he was convinced were descendants of the Lost Israelites. The self-sufficiency and fierceness of these tribesmen deeply impressed him. He writes as follows:
"There are men of Israel in the land of Persia who say that in the mountains dwell four of the tribes of Israel, namely, the tribe of Dan, the tribe of Zevulun, the tribe of Asher, and the tribe of Naphtali. They are governed by their own prince, Joseph the Levite. Among them are learned scholars. They sow and reap and go forth to war as far as the land of Cush, by way of the desert. They are in league with the Kofar-al-Turak, pagan tribesmen who worship the wind and live in the wilderness."
During his visit to Arabia he came across the largest Jewish settlement in the region, the Jews of Kheibar. "These tribesmen," he writes, "are of the tribes Reuven and Gad, and the half-tribe of Menasseh. Their seat of government is a great city surrounded by the mountains of the North. The Jews of Kheibar have built many large fortified cities. The yoke of the gentiles is not upon them. They go forth to pillage and to capture booty in conjunction with the Arabs their neighbors." The diary of Benjamin, son of Jonahâtranslated into so many languagesâinspired many in their quest for the independent kingdoms of the Ten Lost Tribes.
Straddling the boundaries between Afghanistan, Pakistan and Kashmir lives the world's largest tribal groupingâthe Pathans. All of the 15 million Pathans, who comprise some 60 tribes, claim descent from Kish, an ancestor of the Biblical King Saul. Many of them also claim to be children of the Lost Israelites. The Pathans perform circumcision of the eighth day, wear a fringed garment similar to the Jewish tzizit, light candles on Friday nights and observe food taboos similar to the laws of Kashrut."

Posted by Danielle 2005-10-15 10:36|| 2005-10-15 10:36|| Front Page Top

#9 Kewl! I didn't know that, Danielle.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-15 10:42|| 2005-10-15 10:42|| Front Page Top

#10 Isn't it possible that the term refers to a region-and thus could have been adopted century after century by disparate groups?

Posted by jules 2 2005-10-15 10:48|| 2005-10-15 10:48|| Front Page Top

#11 Danielle

I fear the Jews of Arabia have been wiped to a man since then. About Persia I know that there have been Jewish communities passing for Muslims (cf the Marranos in Spain passing for Christian) but practicing Judaism secretly and on differnt prextexts turnning true Muslims who wanted to marry one of their girls (beleieving she was a Muslim).

For Pashtoons, they love to attribute mythical origins to themselves (Jewish is one of the hypothesis they air, of course, taliban partisans vehemently deny it). Others tell of such or such Pashtoon tribe as a of Jewish origin, such other as of Arab origin and so on. I don't know about those Jewish-like traditions between Pashtoons (another name for Pathans) but I can inquire if you are interested. I confess I am sceptical: if they originated in the lost tribes I would expect Pashto being a semitic language but it is from the indo-european group

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-10-15 11:45|| 2005-10-15 11:45|| Front Page Top

#12 I suppose it mostly wishful thinking that UBL could be traveling with Jews and what they could do to him while sleeping, as Jael put a tent stake through the temple of Sisera. :) However, I happened to find this information because I am part of the Genome DNA study to track migrations from mitochondrial Eve. They are also testing DNA specifically for Jewish ancestry trying to find the cohanim and even the fabled Lost Tribes, so the mythological speculation can be definitively decided by science.

Posted by Danielle 2005-10-15 12:38|| 2005-10-15 12:38|| Front Page Top

#13 #3: Turbans twisting to maximum torque...
Posted by: Seafarious|| 2005-10-15 01:10|| Comments|| Top||

LMAO Seafarious! That will put the gages on red line. Stand back! Their heads are gonna hex-plode!

All kidding aside, Karzai's decision is another step in the transformation of the ME. I certainly hope that it keeps going. Maybe the end of the beginning, as Churchill would say. I certainly hope so. Wouldn't it be something if the ME transformed itself and Eurabia became a backwater ME ghetto? I hope that everyone transforms themselves into something good. Major project.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2005-10-15 14:11|| 2005-10-15 14:11|| Front Page Top

#14 Ooooohhhh, what a knee in the gonads to the Taliban, and Osama's little band of merry murderers... what fun it till be, watching the die-hard jihadis all in a tizz...
So, who's making the popcorn?!!

Posted by Sgt. Mom">Sgt. Mom 2005-10-15 17:14|| www.sgtstryker.com]">[www.sgtstryker.com] 2005-10-15 17:14|| Front Page Top

#15 Popcorn! Getcher fresh-popped corn here! Guaranteed to harden your arteries and raise your blood pressure! :-D

Posted by trailing wife 2005-10-15 19:29|| 2005-10-15 19:29|| Front Page Top

#16 Hurrah! Another grand thumb-in-the-eye to Arab Muslim anti-Semitism. Karzai (and not ElBaradei, worthless maggot he), should have gotten the Nobel Peace Prize for such a courageous and outstanding move. A few more such defections and the remaining hardcore anti-Semite Arab nations will finally take on the calcified and obsolete aspect they so clearly manifest.

Posted by Zenster 2005-10-15 22:00|| 2005-10-15 22:00|| Front Page Top

#17 Seems as if these guys have every intention of joining the modern world. Why don't American companies begin setting up shop here then instead of China? Low cost labor and they get to develop a bit faster as a result.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-10-15 22:23|| 2005-10-15 22:23|| Front Page Top

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