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2004-10-15 Iraq-Jordan
Russia calls for return of weapons inspectors to Iraq
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Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-10-15 3:39:22 AM|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 round up the 13 year olds...their baaack!
Posted by 2b 2004-10-15 4:10:37 AM||   2004-10-15 4:10:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Sometimes, I don't get Russians. Maybe they're trying to shift the spotlight from their Iran dealings? (Which in itself is like sleeping with fleas, nothing good can come of it for Russia, the quick cash would turn into a curse a bit later).

OTOH, yea, send the inspectors. I am sure that jihadis would see them as potential elements in get-rich-quick schemes, with some gore theatrics for media ghoulies. The speed of inspectors departure would probably become a new world record.
Posted by Memesis 2004-10-15 4:39:37 AM||   2004-10-15 4:39:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Yo, Putty - better make 'em leatherneck inspectors cuz Memsis is right, lol!
Posted by .com 2004-10-15 4:42:43 AM||   2004-10-15 4:42:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 IAEA director general Mohamed ElBaradei earlier this month told the United Nations that equipment and materials that could be used to make nuclear weapons, in some cases entire buildings housing sophisticated technology, were disappearing from Iraq.

I'm sorry, but I'm so VERY CONFUSED! Y'mean there WAS equipment in Iraq capable of making WMD, and it's now being stolen because we made the foolish mistake of not guarding stuff that Y'all said didn't exist in Iraq because we made the foolish mistake of BELIEVING Y'all's assertion that there wasn't such stuff in Iraq?

/sarcasm

I'm sorry, but capable LYING requires that you pick a line of deception AND STICKING TO IT COME WHAT MAY.
Posted by Ptah  2004-10-15 7:42:06 AM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2004-10-15 7:42:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Ptah, not for a COGNITIVE DISSIDENT. :-)

If Kerry is an example to follow, then it is apparent that the rule about sticking to the line of deception is no longer required.
Posted by Memesis 2004-10-15 8:05:04 AM||   2004-10-15 8:05:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 ElBaradei will whine about it being to unsafe to do inspections. He is a bigger wuss than Blix.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom  2004-10-15 8:15:20 AM|| [http://www.slhess.com]  2004-10-15 8:15:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Bigger wuss than Blix? Is that POSSIBLE? =)
Posted by docob 2004-10-15 9:55:16 AM||   2004-10-15 9:55:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 I saw this one coming a MILE away. Ask yourself, "Why did the US keep finding, then keep un-finding WMDs in Iraq? Even the really obvious ones?" It all goes back to UNSC resolution 1441. The US is in Iraq on two justifications: searching for WMDs and preventing the interference in the search. However, if the US either finds WMDs, OR declares that there are no WMDs, its authoration under 1441 is OVER, and the US must leave.
Posted by Anonymoose 2004-10-15 10:07:13 AM||   2004-10-15 10:07:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 anon

their was a UNSC res passed after the war, which is the legal basis for the subsequent occupation, and which is not related to WMD's, but to the need to restore order in Iraq.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-10-15 10:26:39 AM||   2004-10-15 10:26:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 once there's an election, the gov't of Iraq will have the right to tell Russia, UNSC, etc. to f&*k off
Posted by Frank G  2004-10-15 10:29:28 AM||   2004-10-15 10:29:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 #8, These are my suspicions as well.
And Libhawk, does the latest UNSC res supercede 1441?

I *still* don't trust the Russians. Either they know something's there, or they want more UN pawns on the ground in Iraq. Or they want an up-close and personal look at our boys/equipment/training/etc.
Posted by Anonymous4021 2004-10-15 11:29:58 AM||   2004-10-15 11:29:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Any significant find of MWD’s in Iraq would greatly aid the Bush administration’s position in the US and the world. It would guarantee Bush’s re-election.

The only “legal” authority for remaining in Iraq that the US cares about is that the Iraqi government wants the US to remain. The January Iraqi elections are to assure that the Iraqi government is seen as having legitimacy among Iraqi’s.

My own assessment a few months after the fall of Baghdad was that Saddam had no significant active MWD program. (An assessment I came to very reluctantly as I had to “eat crow”.) Such programs would require an extensive support structure for manufacture, weapons delivery, training in use, etc. Secondary traces of such programs should have been extensive. Many people would have been involved and, given the rewards offered, some would have talked. (Saddam did maintain a support structure that could be quickly ramped up to produce MWD’s once inspections ended.)

Yes, Iraq had nuclear facilities. There have been many reports of those facilities in the news. Those sites were locked down and monitored by the UN prior to the war. The uranium ore stored at those sites has now been removed. (Remember the Iraqi villagers that got radiation poisoning after stealing drums from those sites? They dumped the contents and used them as water barrels. Remember the rumors that Saddam had a secret nuclear lab hidden under the known facilities? US soldiers explored a water-filled basement.)

Bush didn’t lie about MWD’s. The Clinton administration and European intelligence agencies also believed Saddam had WMD’s. There was a US (and global) intelligence failure. I suspect that after 911 people were more willing to connect the dots and believe the more threatening data. Given that Saddam failed to follow UN resolutions and prove he had no WMD’s, their conclusion was reasonable.

More information may come to light. A few weapons may have been transferred to other countries. Some Iraqi nuclear scientists may be Syria. However, I doubt the US will find evidence of a significant active WMD’s program.

I certainly don’t believe the US government is hiding evidence of WMD’s in Iraq.
Posted by Anonymous5032 2004-10-15 11:32:10 AM||   2004-10-15 11:32:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Shit, I'm all for inspectors, bring'em in by the bus loads from Paris, Madrid, Berlin, and Brussels, those stupid white jeeps make great targets.
Posted by Jarhead 2004-10-15 3:58:43 PM||   2004-10-15 3:58:43 PM|| Front Page Top

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