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2005-10-13 Terror Networks & Islam

On Islamic Websites: A Guide for Preparing Nuclear Weapons

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Posted by Steve 2005-10-13 11:00|| || Front Page|| [11123 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The CIA should have slipped (incorrect) guides to building nukes and dirty bombs out there long ago. Design them so that whomever is working anywhere near them doesn't take the right precautions and preferably blows themselves up in the process.

Like that old Mash episode. Cut the red wire, but first...

Posted by rjschwarz 2005-10-13 11:46|| 2005-10-13 11:46|| Front Page Top

#2 Sounds like a "How to hack computers" guide from 1991. I bet legions of young Muslim men are going to jerk off furiously while reading this claptrap. Like anyone can make nuclear weapons in the kitchen. Really.

Posted by gromky">gromky 2005-10-13 11:53|| http://communistposters.com/]">[http://communistposters.com/] 2005-10-13 11:53|| Front Page Top

#3 I invented kitchen built atomic devices. For ozone monitoring, of course, but like my other invention, the Internet, it could be perverted to ~~Republican Free Speech~~ weapons construction.

Posted by Al Gore 2005-10-13 12:10|| 2005-10-13 12:10|| Front Page Top

#4 According to the 2-14-05 copy of Time mag, a rudimentary nuke can be made with an artillery tube and nuke material. Dual-use technology can be used to detonate either a bomb or a kidney stone. The EU and CIA projection of years away before Iran could develop one assumed too much while overlooking that there is stolen material and freebie info floating around.

Posted by Danielle 2005-10-13 12:10|| 2005-10-13 12:10|| Front Page Top

#5 Detonation of a kidney stone sounds like torture to me (it hurt just to read it).

Posted by NYer4wot 2005-10-13 12:13|| 2005-10-13 12:13|| Front Page Top

#6 Oooh, Time magazine! Now THERE'S an authoritative source on nuclear physics!

Posted by gromky">gromky 2005-10-13 12:38|| http://communistposters.com/]">[http://communistposters.com/] 2005-10-13 12:38|| Front Page Top

#7 a rudimentary nuke can be made with an artillery tube and nuke material

Gun type nuke, developed during Manhatten Project were considered so reliable they didn't even bother testing one.

Posted by Steve">Steve 2005-10-13 12:44|| 2005-10-13 12:44|| Front Page Top

#8 Should make it easy to identify the jihadis. They'll be the ones glowing in the dark.

Posted by RWV 2005-10-13 13:05|| 2005-10-13 13:05|| Front Page Top

#9 Didn't MacGyver make one with a old VW bus engine, an orange crate and a tampon?

Posted by Doc8404 2005-10-13 13:56|| 2005-10-13 13:56|| Front Page Top

#10 Didn't MacGyver make one with a old VW bus engine, an orange crate and a tampon?

That was an EMP device. The nuke he made with the glowing stuff scraped off 500 watch faces.

(Or was that Bloom County's Oliver?)

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-10-13 14:11|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-10-13 14:11|| Front Page Top

#11 Well there was that kid in Michigan with the americurium reactor.... made with duct tape...

Posted by 3dc 2005-10-13 14:37|| 2005-10-13 14:37|| Front Page Top

#12 a rudimentary nuke can be made with an artillery tube and nuke material.

Significant engineering is involved in the manufacture of gun type weapons. The weapons grade uranium 235 required is not readily available.
If it were, Kaddaffi would have bought some. Saddam would have bought some (and still be around), Iran would have bought some.
In the period prior to the NPT, several contries tried to become nuclear powers. Most failed, including some with signicant techiccal resources (Australia, Brazil, Argentina).
These weapons are clearly NOT easy to build.

Dual-use technology can be used to detonate either a bomb or a kidney stone

Spark gap triggers are used in lithotripters and in implosion type weapons (as constructed by rogue nations like Pakistan). These are far more sophisticated and way beyond the capability of even some countries.

Let us look at the evidence. There have been nation states like Iraq that tried for a decade to build atomic weapons. There was all the resources of an entire country : the best physicists in the universities, the best engineers, vast resources from the treasury, a secret service that could steal technology etc. A state, able to purcase things like weapon technology that individuals cannot. A state with cargo ships and transport aircraft.

A decade and unlimited resources was not enough for a country but terrorist groups can build or buy such weapons?

Posted by john 2005-10-13 15:04|| 2005-10-13 15:04|| Front Page Top

#13 John,

Commentary on the money.

The nuclear weapons construction game for the Poor Man's Robert Oppenheimer basically has two dilemmas:

1. Gun-type: Easy to make the bomb, but where are you going to get all of that enriched uranium?

2. Implosion: Needs much less fissile material (plutonium), but needs a great deal of engineering ability to manufacture.

I suspect dreaming about nuclear weapons is what jihadis do in lieu of playing Dungeons and Dragons.

"Mahmood, I'll hit your Infidel Crusader with a +12 Fermi nuclear blast."

"Ha, Achmed! My Crusader has used his +13 Inviso-Jew Shield to thwart to you."

"Oh! The Jews control everything!"

Posted by Dreadnought 2005-10-13 16:25|| 2005-10-13 16:25|| Front Page Top

#14 Smoke detector sensors. Ten of those will provide enough radioactive material for...one.....bomb.......

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-10-13 16:26|| 2005-10-13 16:26|| Front Page Top

#15 I doubt that even a gun type weapon is that easy to build. Before signing the NPT, Sweden had a secret weapon program, run by the defence ministry and several large industrial concerns - SAAB, Bofors etc. It was eventually discovered by members of parliament and shut down.

Now Bofors builds some of the best howitzers around. They know more about artillery tubes than most. Swedish companies make advanced explosives. Their engineering is superb. Sweden posesses advanced nuclear technology. Their neighbor Norway was making Heavy water during WW2.

The secret programme ran for a few years yet even a gun type weapon was not produced in time. I would assume nuclear material was not a problem in the period prior to the NPT.

I think we are seriously underestimating the difficulty in making an atomic bomb.

Posted by john 2005-10-13 16:38|| 2005-10-13 16:38|| Front Page Top

#16 And the examples of Pakistan and North Korea may not be relevant. Neither nation can even fabricate a bicycle (the first plant for bicyles has just opened in NoKo with chinese technology) yet claims nuclear tech. The documents from Libya showed that the Chinese supplied the weapon designs to Pakistan. They in turn proleferated to Noko and Iran (and possibly Saudi).

Neither has sent even a soccer ball into space yet claims to develop ICBM technology.

Pakistan was unable to develop nukes without Chinese help (including detailed info on how to machine parts shown on blueprints).
NoKo needed the Chinese designs, via Pak.

Posted by john 2005-10-13 16:45|| 2005-10-13 16:45|| Front Page Top

#17 May 28, 1998

If a backwater like pakistan can do it, anybody can. Or did they just borrow a Chinese nuke to test?

Posted by Ulith Angeretle4390 2005-10-13 16:56|| 2005-10-13 16:56|| Front Page Top

#18 UA4390---I remember reading that the ChiComs helped the Pacs a lot.

It is going to take some work to concentrate enough U235 for the gun weapon, and get it pure enough to use and form into the necessary two main shapes to create the weapon. Best way is to buy it. Going to have to know enough not to be ripped off. Even the Russian Mafia does not want to have the finger pointed at them if they sold some U235 to some nutjobs. Delivery will be an issue, as it will be heavy, if you want one to have a yield and be more than just a dirty bomb. There is some great research waiting for those willing to learn ~~and be willing to put up with some serious work accidents.~~

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2005-10-13 18:49|| 2005-10-13 18:49|| Front Page Top

#19 Swedish companies make advanced explosives.

Wasn't Alfred Nobel a Swede? :)

Their engineering is superb.

That it is. I have an old Garcia Ambassadeur fishing reel that's about thirty years old, but it works as smooth as silk as it did the day I bought it.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-10-13 21:14|| 2005-10-13 21:14|| Front Page Top

#20 So do we believe they have another? Or a reliable delivery system? Or is pretending they do a way to prop up Perv instead of the ISI and keep India worried and looking for friends?

Posted by Ulith Angeretle4390 2005-10-13 21:18|| 2005-10-13 21:18|| Front Page Top

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