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2004-10-13 Iraq-Jordan

Insurgent Alliance Is Fraying In Fallujah

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Posted by Steve White 2004-10-13 12:29:46 AM|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]

Posted by Angens Jiting4889 TROLL 2004-10-13 2:15:07 AM|| 2004-10-13 2:15:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Lush twice - boris is a pretty big turd.

He cannot win with facts so he tries to disrupt.

Fred - please report his IP to his ISP and check the TOS - you can probably get his account thrown off his ISP.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-10-13 2:45:05 AM|| 2004-10-13 2:45:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Fred, once again. we can help.

Posted by Memesis 2004-10-13 5:04:40 AM|| 2004-10-13 5:04:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 He's tossed in the HTML for a 4000-wide table just before his comment in order to louse up the site formatting.

Posted by Steven Den Beste 2004-10-13 8:37:17 AM|| [http://denbeste.nu] 2004-10-13 8:37:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 He tries to do that at least once a day, in the wee hours when the editors are nitey-nite.

Guess we'll have to set up a night watch.

Posted by Fred 2004-10-13 8:51:53 AM|| 2004-10-13 8:51:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 WaPo as a source of optimism about Iraq is the second by-line in this story.

Posted by Capt America 2004-10-13 8:53:17 AM|| 2004-10-13 8:53:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Jamal Adnan, a taxi driver who left his house in Fallujah's Shurta neighborhood a month ago after the house next door was bombed by U.S. aircraft targeting foreign insurgents

We left the next-door neighbors house standing? That doesn't sounds like us "Evil" Americans at all.

Posted by Charles 2004-10-13 8:55:20 AM|| 2004-10-13 8:55:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 One of the foreign guerrillas killed by local fighters was Abu Abdallah Suri, a Syrian and a prominent member of Zarqawi's group, whose body was discovered Sunday

dancing raisins, or popcorn? Popcorn, I think.

Oh, and the bit about ancestors graves. Making a big deal about graves is a pre-islamic custom i think, and is big to Sufis. The Salafis wont have it at all, not even gravestones. This alienated muslims in Bosnia from the Salafis, and seems to be having an effect in Fallujah, where evidently not everybody is wahabi.

So what we did was let the folks there live under their Salafi "liberators". till the locals got sick of the jihadis.
Let the plan continue.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-10-13 8:56:15 AM|| 2004-10-13 8:56:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 what no comment form murat -

Posted by Dan 2004-10-13 11:10:01 AM|| 2004-10-13 11:10:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 capt america:
Theres been a difference of tone among the different arms of the WaPo. Editorial page is straight liberal hawk - pretty close to my positions. The National Bureau reporters, with a couple of exceptions, seem to have it in for Bush, and have been farther left on Iraq related issues. The Baghdad bureau has been somewhat in between - they lean "quagmire" but have a knack for insightful stories. If they print something positive like this, it doesnt mean the worlds turned upside down (since they arent "on the enemy side") but its a pretty good indication SOMETHING real is happening, since they are lean towards the negative.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-10-13 11:14:56 AM|| 2004-10-13 11:14:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 only a matter of time before the subtle cracks became fissures. The locals may not like us being around, but I think they are learning that a secular U.S. doesn't give a flip if they pray on a grave or on a palm tree.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-10-13 11:17:29 AM|| 2004-10-13 11:17:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Local insurgents in the city of Fallujah are turning against the foreign fighters who have been their allies in the rebellion that has held the U.S. military at bay in parts of Iraq's Sunni Muslim heartland, according to Fallujah residents, insurgent leaders and Iraqi and U.S. officials.

My memory serves me that this was avoided b/c of politics. Love the WaPo's "the rebellion that has held the U.S. military at bay..." HOGWASH!

Posted by BA 2004-10-13 11:53:51 AM|| 2004-10-13 11:53:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 You might be right BA, maybe the IGC wanted us out of fallujah because they figured in the long run the locals and the foreign arabs would run afoul of each other. Let them waste each other over religious disputes and eventually the masses will want order and will turn to the IGC and U.S. to provide it. At the time I did not predict this but maybe there was a logic to it after all.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-10-13 1:45:39 PM|| 2004-10-13 1:45:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 #13, JH: I submit to you...you are probably correct. My gut instinct tells me to wipe 'em off the face of the planet and sort things out after, but there may be some logic in this. I'm sure the civilian population are tiring of these fights on their streets and I've read where many want us to come in and run these goons out.

Posted by BA 2004-10-13 2:29:24 PM|| 2004-10-13 2:29:24 PM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Angens Jiting4889 2004-10-13 2:15:07 AM|| 2004-10-13 2:15:07 AM|| Front Page Top

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